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« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2006, 09:47:51 PM »
Yes I will take pics...and if it all works...even a write up will follow

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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2006, 11:34:20 PM »
I am learning more....  Looks like we will also need this plug on the back of the cluster.  The one that is circled..
I didn't get that with my cruise parts so I will need to track one down



As you can see here is a 318is cluster...grabed a pic from the OBC install



As you can see it is missing on ours.  I wonder if it missing on all 318is...if anyone wants to add there that would be cool

Other than that the wiring so far is looking pretty stright forward.  I understand all the wires on the e30 cruise harness now.

I am hoping to get everything understood and get that other little part by the middle of next week.  I have this and the OBC wanting to be installed and going to take some time next week to pull the dash apart.
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« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2006, 02:58:45 PM »
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A Couple questions....if i turn the key with the airbag out with I assume the SRS light will stay on.  Will it go out once I hook everything back up?


Once you turn the key with the airbag out you trip some sort of something and the only way to get the light turned off is to find a dealership that still has the tool to turn it off (which as I understand it is extremely hard to do), you then have to pay them like $250 just to turn of the dumb light...

You say you have the wiring all figured out, I'm interested to know about it...

Ben

PS. Hi everyone, I've been a lurker here for a while but this thread finally induced me to sign up...

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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2006, 01:17:27 PM »
I have all the parts now.  Fitted the acuator in the engine bay and connected to the TB.  I used the e30 acuator and the e36 acuator cable, pretty easy to switch the two.  

The plug under the dash where the cruise is suposed to plug in isn't there...so after some diagram reading, wire tracing and testing you must tap into the brake light circuit.  That is where the cruise gets its power.

So....I am thinking that I should have some time tomorrow to pull the dash apart and give this a go.  I plan to take pictures as I go and when it works I will write up a How-to

So if it doesn't take all that long I should be able to report back tomorrow afternoon unless the job spills into saturday....

wish me luck
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« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2006, 02:26:38 PM »
Another update, car is all torn apart right now.  Didn't have enough time to finish it before I went to work.  So I will finish it up tomorrow.

The cruise computer will not fit in the bracket that I got with it, even though there is the holes to mount the bracket.  I am sure some fab work could be done here to make it work as it should but....there is enough room above the DME to fit the computer in there so I am going to just use some foam to hold it in there.

The clutch switch bracket doesn't fit either...at least during my first try.  I am going to try and "adjust" aka bend, it tomorrow and see what I can do.  Otherwise I will just go without and make sure I tap the brake pedal to turn off the cruise.

The cruise stalk bolts right up, you have to get a longer m5 screw that goes through the bottom of the wiper stalk to hold the cruise stalk in.

Its getting closer.....  will update tomorrow.
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« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2006, 01:45:47 PM »
It works....pretty easy install.  Still need to make the bracket work for the clutch pedal.  I will add more here soon.  

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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2006, 03:11:09 PM »
Jake, glad to hear it works.  Can we have a parts list and all that good stuff?  ('m guessing thats what you meant by adding more).  How long would do you think it took from start to finish?

After looking at my engine compartment yesterday I realized that it looks like I've already got the bracket that is needed to attach the actuator cable to the throttle body.  Does anyone else have this or is mine just a fluke?

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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2006, 10:43:58 PM »
I will put together a How-to, but here is pretty much the run down.

You need:

**full e30 cruise setup (wires, computer, stalk, actuator)
**e36 actuator bracket and the cable that goes from the actuator to the TB.  (from Monko141: needs to be from a 92' to 94' 318.  Actuator cable 65-71-8-357-087 )
**part number, 62 11 1 372 218, real oem calls it a plug housing....what it is, is a green plug that connects to the back of the cluster, it has some long stiff wires that push into little holes in the cluster and then the "plug housing" has a spot to plug the cruise harness into
**M5 x 20mm screw (this is a replacement for the lower screw that holds the wiper stalk to the column and then allows the cruise stalk to be held in place)
**wire taps (or something to do their job)
**2 conductor plug

You Do:


In the Engine Compartment:


Replace the actuator cable (goes from the actuator to the TB) with the cable that you pulled from the e36.  To do this there is a clip you push down and then you can pull the cable out and unclip it.  

Mount the actuator using the e36 bracket on the AFM mount.

There is a large rubber grommet that has all the other wires going from the engine compartment to the cabin and you can push the acuator wiring through that.

Inside the Car:

You have to remove the cluster, lower panels, steering wheel, etc etc.  I used the OBC walk through to get it all off.  I also installed the OBC at the same time.

Fish the cruise harness from the driver’s side to the passenger side, behind the radio, etc...there is a blue connector that connects to the cruise computer...same type as on the OBC and back of the cluster.  The cruise computer is supposed to be installed with a special bracket...which I have.  But I couldn't get it to fit in right.  So I just set the cruise computer above the glove compartment and surrounded it with foam.

Install the "plug housing" in the back of the cluster...just slide it in...can't really install it wrong.  Plug the cruise harness into the "plug housing"  It goes into the middle plug..labeled with the letter "A"

Fish the rest of the harness around the left side of the cluster...I tie wrapped it up with the existing harness and brought it down under the column.  

Mount the cruise stalk under the wiper stalk.  There are two plastic bosses on the cruise stalk and they fit right into the column.  Then the lower screw (replace with M5x20mm) holds them all together.

Plug the cruise stalk into the cruise harness.  Tie wrap if you please.

There is a ground connection on the cruise harness....single squareish plug.  I did not know where this was supposed to plug in, so I cut it off and crimped on a ring terminal and found a something to ground it on.  I used the mount for the knee pas thingy on the left hand side.

Then there is a 2 wire plug...one blue/white wire and one green/brown (I will double check the colors. )  This normally plugs into a junction block, which our cars have but it is missing the actual pins where it would make contact.  So you will need to cut this off...get a different 2 wire connector and splice it into the brake light switch.  The colors match(makes it easier)  This spot is where the cruise system gets its power.

Connect the actuator cable to the cruise harness.  

You will have one wire with a spade connection that you don't need...it is for auto cars only.  Just tape it back to the harness.

I didn't install the clutch switch just yet but I will soon.  It just plugs into the harness....white connector.

And that’s it!

Put all the panels back on...or try it first (what I did)


I did take some pictures as I went along...not a lot as my batteries were dead the first day.  And I was kind of excited to get it all in.  But I think I got enough to explain it a little better...along with this written explanation.

In addition to having this and the OBC...I was "cruising" at 50mph and reset the OBC MPG mode and it said I was getting 50mpg...  It was a very flat spot, who knows if I was really getting 50...or not but it was cool none the less
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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2006, 10:58:30 PM »
Sweet!  Thanks for the info, and I'm looking forward to seeing the pics

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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2006, 08:41:49 AM »
Awesome job Jake!

Pics to go with your write up please!

Someone actually scooped Zoso on a write up.:D

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« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2006, 01:20:31 PM »
Nice work!  I, too, look forward to seeing the pictures.

I have no problem being beaten out on this writeup :)  I've spent tons of money recently (bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee on eBay, a HD camcorder, new shocks for the jeep, etc)... so I need to pay off some stuff before I spend the cash on the cruise parts.

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« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2006, 10:11:19 PM »
Here is a link to some pictures, http://www.theguestroom.net/car/318cruise/

I wish I would have taken more...but it was too exciting..haha
still working great.

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« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2006, 06:40:11 PM »
cruise control nuts:

http://www.theeurodepot.com/e301990brilliantred318imanual.html

apparently, this has cruise control... somebody call joel and buy the parts!
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« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2006, 07:36:51 AM »
Just did this yesterday. Granted I moved it from one m42 into another - it was somewhat easy. The post by JakeB pretty much nails everything. Slight similarity here and there but it's not complex.

-- As menionted - 1 wire is for the auto cars, ignore it.
-- Also mentioned above - no need to try to swap the steering column covers, Ours is already perforated or if you got it from an airbag car you're good to go.
-- Yes it does get the power from the brake switch.
-- Make sure to yank the clutch switch + bracket from the donor car.
-- Our clusters don't have the green tab for the speed sensor. Simply pull it from a cluster that has one and plug it in yours.
-- I didn't relocate the cruise unit to the factory location. Didn't want to fish wiring all the way across. Mine is simply in the d.side footwell sans the OEM bracket. It's semi- ziptied.
-- I had to use a different screw to hold the cruise stalk in. Not a big deal as I have a plethora of screws from tearing apart too many e30s.
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« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2006, 05:47:11 PM »
Quote from: Febi Guibo;8091
cruise control nuts:

http://www.theeurodepot.com/e301990brilliantred318imanual.html

apparently, this has cruise control... somebody call joel and buy the parts!


I don't see a cruise stalk there?