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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Turbo M42 Race Car, Version 2.0
« on: December 26, 2009, 02:42:32 AM »
AWESOME car , im also building a m42 turbo track car but e36 chassis .
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I like the idea but I think you over looked it a bit. why not buy a used headrest from a junkyard that will fit the car and cut it up. That way if you wreak you want have a metal bar stick through your head?
Hi, I'm searching to make a list for what pistons can be used from other cars, for use with turbo or supercharger on our M4x, instead of buying expensive custom pistons.
the list will be something like this.Code: [Select]So clear from you mind the template of the list upper. I'll upgrade it when more info will come.
1) OEM M42 block, 84mm
a) from car xxx model yyy
PISTONS: bore xx
compression height:
pin diameter:
RODS:
2) OEM M44 block, 85mm
a) from car xxx model yyy
PISTONS: bore xx
compression height:
pin diameter:
RODS:
3) block overbored to 86mm
a) from car xxx model yyy
PISTONS: bore xx
compression height:
pin diameter:
RODS:
Let's start with options for 86mm bored blocks:
OPTION #1 FOR 86mm BORED BLOCK: AFTERMARKET FORGED PISTONS FOR OPEL C20LET ENGINE
Ludiagsm use 86mm Wossner forged pistons for C20LET, with a 86mm bore block. They have 30,43mm of compression height, and they use a 21x13x55.5mm pin . So this is his setup:
PISTONS: 86mm bore from C20LET
compression height: 30,43mm
pin: 21x13x55,5mm
RODS: 138,8mm from honda K20A, 51,1mm big diameter
But he grinds the engine block 2mm, then he has 1mm clearence between up site of pistons to the top level of engine block. He says that the engine with this setup has a cr of 7,9:1.
So, for not grinding the block, we need
-a piston with 2mm more compression height for fit with that honda short rod.
- or a rod 2mm more lenght with same other specs as honda one.
It's right this theory?
OPTION #2 FOR 86mm BORED BLOCK: OEM FORGED PISTONS FOR OPEL C20XE ENGINE
PISTONS: 86mm bore from C20XE
compression height: 30,43mm
pin: oem opel 21mm
OPTION #3 FOR 86mm BORED BLOCK: AFTERMARKET FORGED PISTONS FOR TOYOTA MR2 TURBO 3s-gte ENGINE
PISTONS: 86mm bore from 3S-GTE
compression height: 35mm
pin: 22mmX14mmx63mm
RODS: NISSAN SR20DET, 136.25mm, 22mm pin diameter
still lot to check about option #3...
this is what I've found this night... here now is night:D
if you find some compatible parts that are oem forged it's better because they can be found used, and they will cost nothing compared to aftermarket brand parts.
I need "Cylinder head combustion chamber volume" and "DECK HEIGHT" from a oem M42 and from M44, please, so I can calculate the static compression ratio with new parts.
Positive Crankcase Ventilation: where the hose was connected to the manifold i blocked off the hole and then installed a oil catch instead.
The computer is a stand alone one yes.
It was a bit of a pain to get the car running and setup at first but
now its great.
im using a Garrett GT2871R at 20psi
the car makes 213rwkw
Stock valves.
So what exactly do i need to run megasquirt on my car, i am gonna switch to the e30 m42 manifold.
Was there any complications on your car, did you build it yourself?
Ever consider selling your setup?
thanks
I use two pises of smt6 , easy to install and tune i am satisfied
For the e34 m5 springs, they are heavier but stiffer same dimensions as e30 m3, so they should be safe to 8000 rpm. I used vacmotorsports.com dual spring retainers, e30 m42 small spring bottom retainers, and a custom made shim/retainer to hold the big spring in place.
Any questions just let me know!
I got bored tonight and decided to make it.