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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2009, 09:30:37 AM »
I am waiting on mine to be delivered, once i get it i will post up how it all goes.

I am a total noob when it comes to mapping so if it goes ok for me it should be pish easy for anyone with half a clue.

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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2009, 12:33:26 PM »
would anybody know how this war chip compares to turner or dinan?

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2009, 02:01:55 PM »
as stated before, it functions as a standalone ecu not a pre-programmed chip

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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2009, 02:18:56 PM »
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would anybody know how this war chip compares to turner or dinan?


It could be identical should you choose to replicate a Dinan or Turner map.

The beauty of this system is that you can effectively get most of the functionality of a MS or MSII without either re-looming or creating a pigtail, plus you retain the standard coil drivers and all existing ecu functions. its pretty revolutionary imo

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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2009, 02:41:11 PM »
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It could be identical should you choose to replicate a Dinan or Turner map.

The beauty of this system is that you can effectively get most of the functionality of a MS or MSII without either re-looming or creating a pigtail, plus you retain the standard coil drivers and all existing ecu functions. its pretty revolutionary imo


systems like this have been around for years, look at hondata and chrome

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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2009, 03:35:42 PM »
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systems like this have been around for years, look at hondata and chrome


Sorry again I should has been specific.

Its pretty revolutionary for the BMW scene.

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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2009, 12:34:33 AM »
all well and good if they make the chip for your ECU...i'm still waiting on the 590 chip to be made :(

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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2009, 02:14:54 PM »
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all well and good if they make the chip for your ECU...i'm still waiting on the 590 chip to be made :(


Witch engine is this ecu for?:confused:
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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2009, 11:43:06 PM »
M42...duh ;) hahaha
E36 318iS 1995...that's the car it is out of...

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« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2009, 01:45:56 AM »
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Its pretty revolutionary for the BMW scene.

Its pretty revolutionary for the pre 1996 Motronic scene. :)

I have been in touch with Miller because they are about to launch a Porsche version as well.

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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2009, 09:18:55 PM »
Can you change the injector size in the software? IIRC someone previously mentioned on this forum that you couldn't and that was a major lim factor.

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« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2009, 01:59:11 AM »
Injector size doesn't matter, in the tuning process you change the injector pulse width to whatever is needed to keep the proper air fuel ratio at a certain rpm and engine load. This chip is not for you if you have never tuned a car before unless you are going to pay someone to tune it for you which gets expensive. This is not a pre-programmed chip, you can download 2 tunes from the miller website, but that is not what you buy this chip for, you buy it if you are changing major items on the car and the stock and performance chips wont control it. If you just want a little more power, say you have an intake and an exhaust, then get a Mark D chip. If you are going to boost your car, ITB, big cams, extensive internal engine modifications, alternate fuels (alcohol, e85, etc...) then this is the chip for you. It really shouldn't even be called a chip, it is a circuit board that completely replaces your stock eprom chip.

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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2009, 08:48:10 AM »
I have been doing a lot of reading on shark edit and it seems like it is a pretty good deal for the money, but with no "off the shelf" tunes available it would take a lot of dyno time to really get a good tune. The same goes for the WAR chip; sure, you can use one of their loaded tunes, but what is the point? More so than anything, this makes for a much simpler way of tuning, without having to completely re-wire the entire car. Like Eric said, this chip is meant as a tool for more serious builders who have reached the limit of the stock motronic but who don't want to go through the hassle of a stand-alone or more complicated piggy-back. As far as I see it, in the end you aren't saving much money, just simplicity and ease of use.
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« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2009, 11:59:59 PM »
I went to go buy one tonight and there is still no selection on the drop bar for the 175 ecu. I just sent them what I think is my 50th email and hopefully I will get a response in the morning and will post up what they say.

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« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2009, 01:42:07 PM »
Sorry about that. It was added in the software download section, but it wasn't updated in the store side. It is now posted and ready to be ordered. The MAF is completely irrelevant to this, but I understand your concerns.

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