Author Topic: 5x120 swap (Read 23298 times)

Boosted E30 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 09, 2009, 08:07:08 PM »

As far as i know yes. Pm HMS_Tim he has done a similar swap and will be able to give you more info i have not done my swap yet im waiting for my camber plates. From talking to different ppl i have learned you do need the control arms offset bushings and camber plates to get the wheel to sit in the fender and align properly.

bme30 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2009, 03:18:23 PM »

thanks.. i'll pm HMS_Tim and ask.. i already have on order the offset bushings

bme30 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2009, 08:54:00 PM »

Quote from: Danny707;67866

E36s have high offsets, E30s have low offsets.

Basically you'll need high offset rims in the front and low in the back if you do go with this setup.

that would be great for a staggerd rim set up...

walt325ic · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2009, 10:11:16 PM »

hello i'm to this also want to do the 5 lug swap, already have ti complete rears so the ti front parts will work on e30 if i'm reading this correctly

walt325ic · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2009, 10:15:37 PM »

hello fellow members i also want to do 5 lug swat, already have ti rears complete will the fronts work on e30

Danny707 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:30:01 AM »

No.

You need 96+ M3 front parts.

walt325ic · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2009, 02:03:06 PM »

thanks will start looking for parts.

Boosted E30 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 14, 2009, 10:40:49 AM »

you dont have to use the 96+ m3 parts i just am because of the big brakes i love the look of wheels full of brakes. you can use just regular e36 parts but you will need the 97 m3 control arms to get the aligenment right as far as i understand.

justcool · « **Reply #23 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:34:39 PM »

Not to be redundant guys but i am considering the same 5 lug swap. From reading the material here, if i understand it correctly is that, one would need 96+ m3 complete front and a TI complete rear. Am i correct in this?

The next question is, Couldn't the e30 m3 entire suspension also work. Providing that one could find a complete suspension that someone was willing to part with

HMS_Tim · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2009, 12:26:21 PM »

The 5 lug swap to e36 is pretty simple. I've got e36 lower control arms, e36 325 knuckles and struts and e30 m3 off set lillipops. I am also running an e30 caster camber plate. I feel it is needed to get the caster adjustment where it would be needed. My front wheels were pushed to the rear of the fender opening about an inch or so. I'm fighting with trying to dial more caster in and centering the wheels in the opening. I'm looking into a more offset adjustable bushing. The e36 swap will keep the track width about the same as an e30 setup.
As far as brakes, I went with e36 325 calipers up front and e30 m3 rear calipers. e28 m5 master and e21 booster. There was a little shortening to be done to the shaft in the master, but other wise it bolted right in. I also removed the proportioning valve inline that went to the rear brakes to get it equal.

e30 m3 front and rear would just bolt right into any e30, but they are expensive and a little hard to find.

I am looking for the 97 control arms to see if they will put the wheel where I need it and give me the caster I want. I will post what I find when I get it done. I'm prepping for an event at Mid ohio in two weeks, so I have my work cut out for me.

bme30 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 17, 2009, 03:28:00 PM »

^^^^ thank you very much and i cannot wait to hear the 97' parts results

Boosted E30 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 17, 2009, 06:03:59 PM »

Thanks for clairifying HMS_Tim so everyone understands you can use either m3 knuckles up front for big brakes YOU WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO FIT 17" WHEELS OR BIGGER IF YOU USE E36 M3 KNUCKLES. otherwise you can use regular e36 kncukles in the front and the smallest wheel size you can use is a 15". The caster issue should be resolved with the 97+ m3 control arms, offset control arm bushings and camber plates.

strypt · « **Reply #27 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:30:29 AM »

What are you guys doing to resolve the bump-steer issue that comes with using E36 parts in an E30?

bme30 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2009, 06:19:04 PM »

Boosted E30 : camber plates or camber/caster plates? It was mentioned that camber/caster plates would be needed, but if only camber is needed that makes life easier.

Forgive this next question.. but the knuckels you are talking about is the part that the steering rack connects to the CA's?

Boosted E30 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2009, 07:42:57 PM »

I dont know for sure if you need camber/caster plates im sure you can make it work with just camber plates i ordered these my buddie has them on his e30m3 and loves them. http://www.ksportusa.com/asp/pillowball_detail.asp?product_id=pm01

As for the knuckles that is the peice that holds your rotors calipers struts wheel bearing and hub and essentially where you bolt you wheels to also where you attach the outter ball joint and tie rod end. Number 2 in the pic is the knuckle/kingpin
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG93&mospid=47488&btnr=31_0420&hg=31&fg=10