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« on: March 10, 2006, 08:03:35 PM »
so what would be a good injector to upgrade to, im looking for the area of 24#'s or so. im wondering where to find a set, what engines came with them, and where a good price would be for them.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2006, 08:08:12 PM »
I was under the impression that unless you are going the fi route, 19# units from mustang 5.0's are all you really need.  I don't know what your plans are, but 24# might be a little overkill.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2006, 08:27:50 PM »
I'm pretty sure he's going the FI route

send me a PM if you want the contact for the guy I bought my 24#ers from
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2006, 07:15:37 AM »
Got it.  24# definately then.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2006, 12:05:10 AM »
Quote from: m42 fan
I was under the impression that unless you are going the fi route, 19# units from mustang 5.0's are all you really need.  I don't know what your plans are, but 24# might be a little overkill.
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the stock ones are 21#'s. i have 19#'s in my car, and realized this the other day...

and about the FI, who knows what this summer holds for my m42.... its all dependant on whether i score the job im shooting for.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2006, 12:08:24 AM »
someone told me stockers for a m42 was 17#? I don't remember who though so I guess its not reliable
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2006, 12:36:57 AM »
I am 90% dure the M42 stockers are 17#.  They are the same PN as M30 injectors.

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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2006, 03:12:20 AM »
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I am 90% dure the M42 stockers are 17#.  They are the same PN as M30 injectors.


i was talking to another guy yesterday and he looked up the P/N for the stockers and they were 20.5 lbs... but that was a euro car. i could be wrong then??
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2006, 06:59:17 AM »
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i was talking to another guy yesterday and he looked up the P/N for the stockers and they were 20.5 lbs... but that was a euro car. i could be wrong then??


Sounds like we have just discovered some more euro parts to start importing :D

Otherwise, I was prety sure also about the stockers being #17 also.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2006, 10:07:04 AM »
It was me who was telling kowalski about m42 injector flow-rates.
put your injector part numbers up and i'll check them out, kowalski didn't give me his so am not sure whether yours are the same.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2006, 11:56:04 AM »
the stock injectors for the US market are the same number and are thus the same flow rate. I thought the M3 injectors were better but after much research I found that they are actualy 17.5lbs/hr at 43.7psi (3 bar)
and the ford mustang injectors are rated at 19lbs/hr at 33.5psi and 20.5 at 3 bar. the reason for using the mustang injector is for the 4 pintle (hole) nozzle which atomizes the fuel better and produces a better burn and thus more torque. The stock injectors are only one pintle and since most of use have cars over 100k, they could use a cleaning any way. Becareful which mustang injectors you buy or look at because there are early ones that dont have a 4 pintle nozzle but the older single pintle.

Now just a footnote think of the difference in dispalcement of the 5.0l mustang and the little 1.8l M42, these things are made to make HP and rev.

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2006, 12:12:06 PM »
What year mustangs had the 4-pintle ones?  I am down to try out some 20.5# ones (out system is 3 bar right?).  I put the M3 ones in (4 pinthe as well), and really did not notice much power increase...it DID run smoother though with the better atomization.

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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2006, 12:59:56 PM »
I dont have the year butif you look on ebay or any one selling injectors on the net ask first if they are 4 pintle.

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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2006, 02:07:57 PM »
you can't be serious that you'd prefer to run injectors with the wrong flow rate just cos they have 4 pintles! thats nuts!
running 19.5lb injectors will lean the fuelling off even more than our horribly lean factory setup... forget the 4 pintle thing, it makes very little difference - have you ever seen injectors on an injector tester? the difference between a 4 pintle and single is really slight. more important is to make sure the injectors are firing in a nice shape - any clogging or dirt means they 'spit' all over the place. also the 4 pintle ones clog easier. agreed though that clean injectors are important.

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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2006, 07:05:07 PM »
Quote from: tim_s
you can't be serious that you'd prefer to run injectors with the wrong flow rate just cos they have 4 pintles! thats nuts!
running 19.5lb injectors will lean the fuelling off even more than our horribly lean factory setup... forget the 4 pintle thing, it makes very little difference - have you ever seen injectors on an injector tester? the difference between a 4 pintle and single is really slight. more important is to make sure the injectors are firing in a nice shape - any clogging or dirt means they 'spit' all over the place. also the 4 pintle ones clog easier. agreed though that clean injectors are important.



whats wrong with the 5L mustang injectors? your confusing me a bit on this... i'm heading to the dyno soon hopfuly, and im gona get myself an adjustable FPR and see if im running lean or not. where can i get a decent FPR for a reasonable price, or does anyone have one for sale?
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