Mustang Injectors in an M42 engine

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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2006, 04:40:29 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2006, 08:07:49 PM »
so... anyone want to tell me how to get good access to the fuel rail so i can install these bad boys?

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2006, 08:33:05 PM »
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so... anyone want to tell me how to get good access to the fuel rail so i can install these bad boys?


I believe it's under the intake manifold.  How long does it take to remove the IM for those that have done it?  It looks pretty straightforward though.

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2006, 09:11:28 PM »
its easy, all you gotta do is take off the throttle boddie, disconect the thottle cable and the vacume hoses and the FPR hose, then pull off the heated spacer, and then take the manifold off and your there. the only part thats a pain in the ass is putting the FPR hose back on... while your doing this i recomend replacing most if not all the rubber hoses.
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2006, 05:24:15 PM »
i bought all the vaccuum hoses from bavauto a while ago but haven't got around to replacing them yet. this will give me the motivation. The throttle body looks like a pain to get off though, is it not? it looks like 4 bolts (maybe 11mm or so), 1 on each corner, and it looks impossible to reach the bottom two w/ a wrench or socket. any tips?

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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2006, 03:17:15 AM »
It is a bit of a pain reconnecting the coolant lines below the TB, actually it is a real PITA.  Other than that it is not too bad.  Just be careful yanking the injectors out.  They can be a real pain to remove.

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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2006, 10:13:53 AM »
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It is a bit of a pain reconnecting the coolant lines below the TB, actually it is a real PITA.  Other than that it is not too bad.  Just be careful yanking the injectors out.  They can be a real pain to remove.

Why do you have to remove any coolant lines?  I mean, might be a good time to replace these, but I don't see why you have to remove coolant lines to get at the intake manifold.  

The part that makes me nervous is that my throttle cable is all taped up with electrical tape up by the pivot point.  I'm nervous to see what's broken up there.  :eek:

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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2006, 12:10:12 PM »
I am referring to the little coolant feed hoses that feed the TB's de-icer.  They are really short, and connect to the TB underneath it, but it has to already be in place for them to reach their fittings.

The easiest way I found to het this done was to unbolt the TB, unclamp the hoses, and remove the TB first.  The manifold is cake after that.  Installation is the reverse.

Check the FPR vacuum line for cracks.  I got a new hose (rubber, braided on the outside with a nylon sheath) for like $.68/foot at Kragen.  It is not a good thing to have a leaky one.

Also, check to see if the lower manifold is all gunked up with clack goop inside.  If it is bad enough that you can see the goop in the injector bungs, consider removing the manifold & cleaning it.  All you have to do is loosen some more bolts (MAYBE replace the gasket, if it rips, or you do not have any high temp silicone RTV), pull the vacuum line out of the brake booster, and disconnect the 2 little segments of fuel line going to the rail.  Just be careful doing this as gas will likely come draining out.  You may as well replace these fuel lines too, a 1' segment will more than cover the job for these 2 little bits.

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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2006, 06:38:26 PM »
Removed the upper manifold on my car yesterday to access a water line that was leaking. I thought it was straightforward, mind you this was the first time I've ever taken it apart.

In reference to the FPR vacuum lines that have been discussed, what do those look like and where are they located as I've removed a few hoses and want to ensure these get replaced.

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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2006, 09:20:30 PM »
the FPR line is located on the throttle body, it attatches to the small valve on the side of it.

how come you removed the coolant lines on the by the TB, you can just shimmy that thing off without removing the lines if you want... thats what i do.
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2006, 09:48:56 AM »
Quote from: shellback
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=63406&page=2

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http://www.m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=538&page=4&highlight=pintle

Post # 86. I'd not rush to upgrade fuel on your car just yet. What mods have you done?

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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2006, 09:29:59 AM »
Señor,
I guess I'm stocking up on parts first :D

Not sure what I'll be doing in the near future:
2.1
turbo
DASC

If I choose one of the above, will I still need the injectors?

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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2006, 12:01:42 PM »
^^yep you will need larger injectors for the that stuff.  Stock m20ers even use bigger ones w/ the m30 AFM
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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2007, 11:51:30 AM »
I would like to upgrade my injectors as well and ran across 19# injectors on ebay.

The info below is copied from the ebay page I found.

Ford Bosch Design III 19 lb 19lb/hr MPI (multi-port injectors) injectors, p/n's F4SE-A1B, 0280155700. 204cc @ 3 bar. Quantity 8. These injectors have a disc-type four-hole fuel delivery system in comparison to the single pintle of the Design II's for a more efficient fuel-atomization. This results in a more efficient power delivery and better mileage.
Also a great upgrade for BMW's; fits the BMW M20 fuel rail. These were pulled from a running engine and have been electrically tested. You get the exact ones in the picture.
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