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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2006, 05:55:34 PM »
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Yeah, I second the first idea for doing this.  Getting an M47 crank is tough, and there is some hard machining that needs doing.  Let's see if we can come up with some sort of home-brew solution, that is nice & reputable as well!
Does anyone have any ideas on this yet?

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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2006, 07:05:02 PM »
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Thanks.

I also ordered some Grade 12.1 head bolts from Boltdepot.com

They are only 90mm rather than the stock 95mm but we'll see what happens.

When I was measuring the thread pitch on the old stretch bolts I was shocked by how much they had stretched.


I see no reason for upgrading the headbolts on the M42 if natually aspirated. Actually the S42(1995) engine used stock headbolts, as well as main bearing bolts.  I would be more concerned about using extra high quality rod bolts.

Also i'm not an engineer, but your remarks about the stretch on the bolts makes me think that they have been over tightened. And not of too low specification for the application.

modern stretch bolts should be considered like a spring, a very stiff one too. When tightening the bolt you typically tighten it to abut 80% of it's yeild strength. Thereby stretching the bolt / tensioning the spring. If you tighten it above the yeild strength of the bolt. You will see permanent stretch (not good) as the clamping force has then been compromised. And the metal structure distorted, resulting in a weakened bolt thats ready to be scraped.

Very high quality fasteners are often precission measured and logged before assembly. And during rebuilds checked against the log, any sign of permanent stretch means the bolt has to be replaced.
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2006, 08:07:37 PM »
is the oil chanel in the lifters in the same place as the bmw lifters?

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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2006, 02:00:34 AM »
Why do not solid lifters if you want to rev it up?
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2006, 01:32:48 PM »
im using m50 lifters because they hold more oil and swap right in :)

Also, 2002maniac, you do machine work? can you clean up my s50 pistons?

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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2006, 01:33:49 PM »
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Why do not solid lifters if you want to rev it up?

$$$

The main reason I wanted to upgrade the headbolts is becuase there is a chance I'll have the head on and off a few times and I dont want to buy new stretch bolts each time.

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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2006, 01:37:46 PM »
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Also, 2002maniac, you do machine work? can you clean up my s50 pistons?


What needs to be done to them?  One-off parts can require alot of time to get the setup and programming just right so it could get expensive.

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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2006, 02:38:12 PM »
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fourseasonstuning.com and look at there oem engine parts.


The guy who owns Four Season is an old friend of mine. I used to own a VW. Perhaps I can setup a discount with him for M42/R3V guys...His prices are always reasonable and he works with you to get the best prices. He's a one-man deal, so no customer service hassles.