camber correction - offer your input

[BraveUlysses]

Well, if as you say, we (you and I) dont know the bearing load, how do you know its not "HALF of what would ever be subjected to the vehicle during daily driving or tracking?", and yours just hasn't broken yet?

I don't own either set of camber plates. I have no dog in this hunt.

Your research consisted of  "I cannot find any real world examples of the plates breaking as shown".

Surely if the bearings break at half the loads they would be subjected to during driving/tracking, there would be numerous accounts of it all over the net--yet there are NONE.

That is not good enough for me, and I shared my reasons why with you. You responded by attacking the messenger (me) and digging up posts from another forum about a completely different subject. Straight out the Chicago Politics playbook, to discredit any opposing views, because you can't support your claim.

You specifically registered on this forum to post in this thread. Odd.

I attacked your links because they are irrelevant to the discussion that Vorshlag's camber plates are inadequate. You can't claim that I am not supporting my claim when your initial claim (posting the video as evidence) doesn't hold much weight, as it lacks measurable data.

I think you should edit your previous post to say: "Vorshlag's (not the Eibachs that Vorshlag sells) plates are far superior to GC's unless you press on them, or try to adjust them or measure stack height"



+1

DSP74

[Hesseth]

from the small amount of information that I can gleem about the various camber plates being discussed here (read 'what materials are used where') the real difference appears to be that the Vorshlag's plates 'may' be engineered for the street while the GC plates are focussed on a track/race setup.

It appears that roundel is happy with the purchase/fit/install/ride/performance so...what's the deal otherwise?

I've seen a pretty wide variety of camber plate setups from really pretty (IMHO GC's & IE's) to completely fugly (yeah, that would be mine...home made) but each of them have done exactly what the owner wants.

so what's the point of my post?  Ummm, well, yeah, about that...I seem to have lost it somewhere along the way...

[dwtaylorpdx]

Been lurking for weeks, decided to toss an opinion...
The dual unit test in the pic is completely invalid.
There fixture design has no chance of equal loading of the parts,
and due to the designs of the units as soon as the force went up
one was bound to compress just slightly more than the other and
from then on its failure city.

If they had used a symetric fixture and done one at a time on a
Saytac stress machine I'd give it way more credibility.

I worked in a testing lab for a time on this type of mechanical failure
and they have way over simplified the problem. The fact is GC makes
a good product, and the Vorshlag plates I've installed looked more than
adequate to do the job.

In 15 years of racing everything with a motor camber plate failure has
not been a prime issue for me...

Dave

[pbgd3skier]

The dual unit test in the pic is completely invalid.

Agree with you, I was watching the video, and didn't see until later when they removed the items from the press that they were just squeezing the two until something popped.

In a real world application this doesn't tell you squat.  It looks impressive though.  Lots of products are sold on videos like that.  Watch as our knife cuts this hammer!

Who cares if a knife will cut a hammer, its not a valid test.  Professional chefs don't use knifes that can cut into hammers.

[BraveUlysses]

Update on that thread, as Vorshlag responds to GC's video:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=108541&page=4