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adam12hicks

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Can the cam sprockets be replaced without engine removal?
« on: September 13, 2008, 10:14:25 AM »
Sorry if this is a ridiculous question... I had the valve cover off the ole M42 the other day and noticed the cam gears are very sharply pointed.  More than I expected for a 130k engine (and I'm the second owner of the car.)  I've replaced the lower oil pan seal, checked the upper pan bolts and everything is perfect.  I have never seen any hints of metal or chain guide issues.  I've also replaced the chain tensioner.

I had a wild ass dream that perhaps the chain tensioner could be pulled and maybe these cam gears could be replaced without a major overhaul.

I guess go ahead and tell me I'm nuts.  :)

Thanks!
Adam
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 10:50:14 AM »
It can certainly be done, and it's not *really* a major overhaul, but it's a fair amount of work. You should also think seriously about replacing the guides and the other gears while you are in there.

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 11:18:31 AM »
It's possible to change the cam gears without taking off the thermostat housing :).  Just loosen the upper timing cover and pull it back a little.

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM »
Very interesting!  So do you guys think it would be a good idea?  I would have to expect that these sharp toothed gears mean there is extra play in the chain from wear.  If this + the tensioner would buy me some miles before needing a chain replacement then I'll about it.

Another quick question since you guys were so gracious to answer quickly... can the 4 bolts on the cam gear be accessed with the valve cover off or does the crank need to be turned to position them for removal?

Now I need to go to REALOEM and see what I'm gonna need parts-wise...
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2008, 03:11:58 PM »
Quote from: adam12hicks;56641
Very interesting!  So do you guys think it would be a good idea?  I would have to expect that these sharp toothed gears mean there is extra play in the chain from wear.  If this + the tensioner would buy me some miles before needing a chain replacement then I'll about it.

Another quick question since you guys were so gracious to answer quickly... can the 4 bolts on the cam gear be accessed with the valve cover off or does the crank need to be turned to position them for removal?

Now I need to go to REALOEM and see what I'm gonna need parts-wise...


brendan purcell's site has the p/n for all the necessary things for the overhaul.  it's under maintenance, timing chain, and there's a link for the writeup at the bottom with the numbers.

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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2008, 05:21:50 PM »
Thanks... is there a link to his site anywhere?
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2008, 09:02:22 AM »
Thanks Frankie!
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