Author Topic: Hartge 2.1 M42 or M44? (Read 12516 times)

Asserti · « **on:** August 19, 2008, 06:50:38 AM »

Somebody who knows what this is?

http://cgi.ebay.de/Hartge-Motor-Ausstellungsmotor-2-1-BMW-318is-TOP_W0QQitemZ280257112946QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280257112946&_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Looks stunning!

bimmerfahrer · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2008, 11:23:10 AM »

Definitely looks nice! I can't really read German, but the description seems to indicate that this was a 1.8 liter engine from a 318iS. From what I can see, it's basically a shell and that you'd need pistons, valves, cams, etc...

You guys over in Europe always get the goodies when it comes to BMWs!! :mad:.....

Voluted · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2008, 11:26:54 AM »

That motor is absolutely gorgeous. I would love to see the car it gets plopped into! If you want to read the google translated page click here:

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=EN&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://cgi.ebay.de/Hartge-Motor-Ausstellungsmotor-2-1-BMW-318is-TOP_W0QQitemZ280257112946QQcmdZViewItem%3Fhash%3Ditem280257112946%26_trkparms%3D72%253A823%257C39%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C240%253A1308%26_trksid%3Dp3286.c0.m14&usg=ALkJrhjE6CeJzl8uEt09zXc14ouGmTqN3A

EN318isPDX · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2008, 02:53:03 PM »

I want to know more about that intake system. It doesnt like look M44 or M42. Is it a hartge? Pretty sick lookin i gotta say

nuvolarossa · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2008, 03:13:02 PM »

That's M42!

ClodKing · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2008, 03:55:51 PM »

What kind of internals would be required to make that sucker run??

And what kind of power numbers could you expect to get??

That intake is silly cool.

EN318isPDX · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2008, 04:37:30 PM »

Quote from: nuvolarossa;55181

That's M42!

The block is M42 but what is the intake?!

nuvolarossa · « **Reply #7 on:** August 20, 2008, 06:09:33 AM »

intake is from the e36 m42... and e30 oil pan! it's a mix

Boyracer · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2008, 06:28:50 AM »

Already discussed here:

http://www.m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6387

Basically, only thing that seems to be from Hartge is the valve cover

Crankshaft is from 1,6 liter M40, exhaust manifold is different to stock M42 but no idea if it is actually better because very different lenght primaries... And there are no internals for block or cylinderhead. Useless piece of junk I would think

nuvolarossa · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2008, 08:50:26 AM »

ops, I didn't read HUB 72 and bmw codes in bigger pics, only watched thumbnails!!!!

so, +1 on the "useless piece of junk", and a lot of people will offer money thinking that it is the real 2114cc with 91mm stroke...

kenika65 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2008, 10:24:37 PM »

I wouldnt buy that spray painted piece, Build your own!

swiss318is · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2008, 10:37:23 PM »

i know that a hartge 2.1 liter engine really exists.. but this ebay thing is not one of them.. definitely not!!! very nice valvecover.....

318kid · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2008, 11:54:19 PM »

Quote from: kenika65;55322

I wouldnt buy that spray painted piece, Build your own!

Why would you not buy it? You've tried selling "restored" engines before that were worse than that... :rolleyes:

Although if I had the dough, I would have bought if for the valve cover, then hung it up on my wall. :cool: