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Another M42 rolls out.
« on: June 29, 2008, 02:47:04 PM »
This is the second M42 build for E30 MotorWerks. Like the first one it sounds great and runs like a champ!

The following basically outlines how I build all my engines.

The customer declined any paint so the engine is 100% natural. You guys may have seen the yellow and black bumble bee M42 that was the first one we built.

The engine had expired due to a failed chain rail. The pieces fell down into the crank gear slipping the chain and bending all the intake valves. The front cover had been seeping and damaged the front face of the block. The crank was starting to get a damaged thrust surface and was caught just in time.

The rebuild is mostly stock. The head was given new intake valves, surfaced and standard valve job. The block required mill machining to save the front face of the block. The rods where completely reconditioned including polishing the side beams and shot-peening. The front cover was replaced including new oil pump rotors, cover plate, and updated oil relief valve components. The main caps where custom machined by Metric Mechanic to accept 360* thrust bearing, and 360* oiling grooves for improved rod bearing oiling. The rod bearings are custom NASCAR performance shells that can handle a whole shit load of abuse as used in a NASCAR Cup motor. Of course all new timing components, and I mean all new as in every single peice, chain, guides, tensioner, gears, idler, etc..
Almost all critical internal components are from the dealer as alot of them are superseded in design.

And on to the pictures. I have a whole bunch of them but I think these will tell the story well enough.

Damage pictures first:
Blown original style chain guide. This peice has been superseded to a better design to prevent such failures. Notice the piece with the teeth marks in it? Thats the one that rolled through the chain taking it out of time.


Wasted front cover with rust and chain damage.



All 8 bent intake valves. I used the box in the background so you can compare the straight printed text to the bent valves.


Now for some of the build shots:
Machined front face of the block. Notice there is still rust damage but it doesn't interfere with proper sealing. Before it was really bad. This block was barely savable. We took .010" off the front, max as stated by Metric Mechanic is .015", after that you get into trouble with the crank and oil pump interference.


All new front cover and oil pump components, all dealer parts.


Reconditioned, polished, shot peened rods, balanced, etc..


Crankshaft after being magnafluxed, polished and oil holes chamfered for improved oiling.


Clean and rebuilt cylinder head.


In the end it looks just like a standard M42. You would never know it was completely rebuilt by looking at it.





And finally, it runs smooth and crisp. Once it breaks in it will run even harder!

Robert


www.e30motorwerks.com
(714) 398-8405

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 03:57:17 PM »
I love your "picture detailed" posts! Great job!

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 04:22:50 PM »
Wow. Thats awesome!

If you don't mind me asking how much did the customer end up paying?

I have a spare M42 that I'm looking to tear apart and build but I have absolutely ZERO time to do this...

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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2008, 04:36:38 PM »
Quote from: SheldonJace;52255
Wow. Thats awesome!

If you don't mind me asking how much did the customer end up paying?

I have a spare M42 that I'm looking to tear apart and build but I have absolutely ZERO time to do this...

It came to approximately $2,650, not including my labor.

Laborwise, I charge $1,400 to rebuild the engine, including R&R of the engine itself. If its just a straight build without R&R of the engine, about $950 for the engine build only.

If you consider that expensive take into account the book time for rebuilding a M42 is 20 hours, times that by the current average SoCal BMW shop labor of $90+ per hour. So that would be $1,800. Book time for R&R is 8 hours or roughly about $720. So book time complete at a 'regular' shop would be about $2,500 for the rebuild and R&R.
Robert


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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2008, 05:08:53 PM »
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It came to approximately $2,650, not including my labor.

Laborwise, I charge $1,400 to rebuild the engine, including R&R of the engine itself. If its just a straight build without R&R of the engine, about $950 for the engine build only.

If you consider that expensive take into account the book time for rebuilding a M42 is 20 hours, times that by the current average SoCal BMW shop labor of $90+ per hour. So that would be $1,800. Book time for R&R is 8 hours or roughly about $720. So book time complete at a 'regular' shop would be about $2,500 for the rebuild and R&R.


Thats not too bad. Unfortunately only I am out here in socal but my engine is back in MO where I live. Where in Orange County are you located btw?
Here pretty soon I'm going to start pricing out a full build of my own for that spare motor I have (parts, machine work, and whatever labor I don't have time for) maybe we can work something out if I end up bringing the motor out here;)

I'm sure you'd be a tid bit more affordable than Metric. Even though theyre only 70 miles from my place instead of 1500 lol.

Was your customer a member on these boards???

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2008, 06:37:09 PM »
Sheldon,

I am in Garden Grove, Ca.  http://www.e30motorwerks.com

And yes MM being 1,500 miles away is a pain as turn around times for service can take up to 2 weeks or more. But they are a very high quality shop and very trusted. I am glad I can work with them to provide my customers with quality performance upgrades.

One of my customers, actually a good friend is a member here. His screen name is colin86325. The other customer is a member of E30tech, not sure if he is on here or not.

Here is the project thread for Colins M42 with lots of build pictures.
http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57835
Robert


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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2008, 09:18:55 PM »
Quote from: peerless;52268
Sheldon,

I am in Garden Grove, Ca.  http://www.e30motorwerks.com

And yes MM being 1,500 miles away is a pain as turn around times for service can take up to 2 weeks or more. But they are a very high quality shop and very trusted. I am glad I can work with them to provide my customers with quality performance upgrades.

One of my customers, actually a good friend is a member here. His screen name is colin86325. The other customer is a member of E30tech, not sure if he is on here or not.

Here is the project thread for Colins M42 with lots of build pictures.
http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57835

Okay cool. I may have some work in your area pretty soon this year btw! Right now we're over in Oceanside and I'll be leaving CA to go home for a week back in Missouri. I plan on taking a trip up to Metric with my new 318is to talk to them about their 11lb flywheel business:)

Thanks for the link btw, I have it bookmarked on my desktop back home but couldn't find it again on my laptop. Maybe I can swing by the shop in the near future and get a tour? As soon as I pull my other motor out and figure out which route to go I'll need parts :)
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 10:41:40 AM »
Shiny polished parts are so sexy

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2008, 02:39:50 PM »
The above m42 is mine.  I've been driving it around for a couple of days now and I must say I could not be more satisfied.

Working with Robert was a pleasure.  There was never a time where I didn't feel my investment wasn't being well spent.  The level of care and detail he took with my engine is amazing.  He even fixed several bonehead mistakes myself and the previous owner had done to the car.  

Very professional guy.  I won't take my car anywhere else!

Thanks Robert!!!

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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2008, 03:16:51 PM »
You say you cannot tell its rebuilt.. its kinda easy... no nasty yellow color.. you made the valve cover look brand new! very nice work
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