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D. Clay

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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2006, 12:45:12 AM »
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dude, an engine swap takes like a day


I look at the flat rate and double or triple it. That's worked out pretty well for me. Rusted and broken bolts, plastic clips, two extra trips to the parts store or the wrecking yard, taking the hoist back, $ for hoses, belts, coolant oil, filters, fluids, motor mounts, cleaning up the mess in the shop and on me, taking cores back ad nauseum. I have swapped an Accord motor in four hours and driven it home and changed engines at the track in 2 hours with a crew. The Accord motor had all the accessories on it and I didn't even degrease it or change the oil. The problems start if it's a car I care about like my 318is. I get into the "while I'm at it I may as well" mood and do all this other stuff that it's needed forever and of course it needs to look good too. The worst case scenario is a short block and separate head. And let's not forget the next day being a total waste for anything productive, nursing sore muscles, scuffed and chafed hands, and dirt in you eyes. Well for me anyway. Like that country song, Old enough to know better and too young to care!
All of that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. I was just thinking of Febi having MetricMechanic turning wrenches. I'm sure they will be certain everything is max for their motorand it will take as long as it does to do it right! Otherwise they could have put the motor on a truck to NY.
Febi, inquiring minds want to know.

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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2006, 09:38:23 AM »
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yeh thats correct, the motor that took a shit was the original motor, not the one he was going to pick up!

Timing is everything.  Looks like that one was on it's last leg.  Glad it was the old motor and not the new one!  I was thinking this was the fresh motor you had just picked up and had puked 100 miles into the return trip.  :eek:

Glad you made it back and keep us informed when the motor swap is complete.

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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2006, 03:26:57 PM »
lol dude, im not febi guibo..but i did speak to him once he got there. haven't heard from him since!


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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2006, 07:41:25 PM »
call him or something!!!

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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2006, 08:02:56 PM »
I spoke to him over aim a few times and I figure I'll let him tell you guys how everything is. But he is doing well.

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« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2006, 12:28:53 AM »
If nothing else, I will post an update tomorow, I am heading down to the shop to check it out.


I will try to get you guys butt dyno results.
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« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2006, 12:04:47 PM »
still here.... engine is in, dealing with some other stuff, pix soon... thanks all!
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« Reply #52 on: May 17, 2006, 01:20:40 PM »
wow, what an epic. can't wait to see the spec list of yours when its all done!

2.1 200bhp, 175ft/lbs 318is
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« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2006, 03:04:23 PM »
Quote from: Febi Guibo
.... actually I kind of like it here, and did some growing up in pittsburgh so I'm used to the accent...

sandwich = Sangwich
radiator = Rahd-e-ator
you guys = yinz

I'm still in it!! The adventure is just beginning!


hey man, good to hear you're back on track...

i grew up about 30mins from everett near a town called Altoona, PA.  went to school in Pittsburgh, so I'm used to the "accents"

yinz still makes me cringe when i hear someone say it...makes absolutely no sense to me.

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« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2006, 04:22:44 PM »
can't wait for pics!

sam you better stop by when your coming back!!


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« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2006, 04:44:59 PM »
YAYERS!

You can stop by my place too while your at it, good way to break it in :D

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« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2006, 11:28:08 PM »
I saw the new engine today, all I can say is DAMN! :eek:
Based on the M3 I rode in with a similar power to weight ratio, that car will be a monster. The m3 (e36) did 120mph like most cars do 60, and got there just as fast.

The shop and people there are impressive, know their stuff and nice as hell. I will be going back for sure. I would definately trust them with my car, and I do not trust other people working on my stuff. They even took time out to take us for a ride in a modded car and show us around the shop. It felt like you were at a buddies house, who just happens to have every tool you could want for messing with your engine. Mills, welders, lifts, lathes, flowbenches, etc... All very nice people.


That motor is a work of art. Jim Rowe (sp?) (nice as hell guy) has spent so much time and thought on that engine. He probably took an hour explaining to me and my brother all he did to it and why. Which is A TON. They went as far as lightening the valvetrain and tweaking the intake manifold's design. A lot of thought and experimentation went into that motor.



I also am having douts about the balancer exploding myth we have heard about. There is simply nothing there to really explode. After looking at it and talking to Jim, I have serious doubts it is true. Funny thing though, BMW put a dual weight steel flywheel, yet an aluminum balancer... WHY?



We also found out the previous motors problem...
Guys, next time you change your oil, drop the lower pan, look up inside, Pull all 6 or so bolts you see  and re-install with locktite. What I saw today scared me, as well as everyone there I think.

We immediately found one bolt in the pan (not uncommon), which was being pounded into the pickup. 3 more were missing. The pan gasket was pushing out the front of the engine, not a big deal except that gasket also seals the pickup to the oil pump. When it slipped it allowed the pump to suck air from the pan area. Also his upper pan had bolts barely finger tight, which explains why the bots were pounding into the pickup.

Pull the lower pan, pull each bolt one by one, locktite and re-torque. Then re-torque the entire upper pan.

Hopefully Febi can get pics of what it looks like inside. My pan comes off within a month.


After thinking about it, I can see why these pans come loose. Every m42 pan I have seen has some signs of scraping the ground. This alone would loosen them up over time.
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« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2006, 12:15:13 AM »
do they know how much power its making?

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« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2006, 12:20:27 AM »
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do they know how much power its making?
Estimates are about 210 I think.



Based on what I was told by Jim, I plugged it into a desktop dyno and got almost exactly what he expected, so this should be pretty close to accurate.
                                                      (By the way, best launch for a stock 318IS is a clutch dump at about 3400-3600rpm.                )

I do not remember specific numbers but this should work.
                             
             STANDING START ACCELERATION RESULTS
 
                      Starting vehicle speed:    0 mph
                      Starting engine speed:  1700 rpm
                      Starting gear:           1st    
                                 
                      Redline Shift Points:            
                      1st      8000 rpm   @     35 mph
                      2nd      8000 rpm   @     64 mph
                      3rd      8000 rpm   @     99 mph
                      4th      8000 rpm   @    132 mph
 
                      Time to Speed:                  
                       0- 30 mph............   1.8 sec.
                       0- 40 mph............   3.3 sec.
                       0- 50 mph............   4.4 sec.
                       0- 60 mph............   5.6 sec.
                       0- 70 mph............   8.0 sec.
                       0- 80 mph............   9.9 sec.
                       0- 90 mph............  12.1 sec.
                       0-100 mph............  16.0 sec.
 
                      Time to Distance:                
                       0- 100 ft............   2.9 sec.
                       0- 500 ft............   7.9 sec.
                       0-1320 ft.(1/4 mile).  14.4 sec.
                                          @   97.9 mph
 
                      Top Speed............. 145.5 mph
« Last Edit: May 18, 2006, 12:29:01 AM by sheepdog »
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« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2006, 12:29:36 AM »
Slightly revised.
Allowed it to shift at max rpm and it dropped 1/4mile and raised trap speeds.

This is also with stock BBS, rather than the 15in. Ronals he has, and with stock suspension height.
The height will help, the Ronals could help or hurt.


This is only a good approximation anyhow.

Good results though.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2006, 12:34:05 AM by sheepdog »
"When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that individual is crazy." --Dave Berry