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Royalratch

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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2008, 03:53:34 PM »
You can,it's fine - I have.

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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2008, 02:11:59 AM »
I have too, no problem.

KyleTaylor

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2008, 03:15:39 PM »
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I have too, no problem.


To reserect a not so old thread...

Wasted spark is no big deal, but if it goes into that mode then the fuel injection will also go into paired firing...  This will hurt fuel economy.

Can anyone take some detailed pictures of the cam gear?  I would imagine they will interchange as the engines are so similar in design.

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2008, 05:29:31 AM »
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To reserect a not so old thread...

Wasted spark is no big deal, but if it goes into that mode then the fuel injection will also go into paired firing...  This will hurt fuel economy.

Can anyone take some detailed pictures of the cam gear?  I would imagine they will interchange as the engines are so similar in design.


Fuel injectors are always fired in pair on the M42, just look at the wiring diagram for the engine harness if you dont believe me.

KyleTaylor

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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2008, 09:29:55 PM »
I will take your word for it... man, if they had used fully sequential injection I would get 40 mpg instead of 33!  

Dunno if it would make that large of a difference... I guess this kills the cam sensor issue, wasted spark is fine if the injection already is paired.  Sweet.

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2008, 11:21:18 PM »
Quote from: KyleTaylor;54072
I will take your word for it... man, if they had used fully sequential injection I would get 40 mpg instead of 33!  

Dunno if it would make that large of a difference... I guess this kills the cam sensor issue, wasted spark is fine if the injection already is paired.  Sweet.

Here's some random facts:

The improvement of sequential injection on mileage depends on driving conditions.  The improvement is mostly seen at idle and very low RPMs.  Only until around 2300 RPM can most engines inject fuel before part of the fuel is injected on a closed intake valve.  But that isn't a bad thing as you might think, since this cools the valve as well as speeds up the vaporization of the fuel.

Sequential ignition on the other hand(if I remember correctly!), doesn't have any effect on mileage or power really.  It's just like wasted spark, but without anything being wasted.  And since the coils are being fired less often there is less wear/longer life for ignition components and since they have more time between firings, the coils can reach higher RPMs and be smaller without overheating.

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2008, 11:26:18 PM »
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The crank sensor work with M42 ecu but the cam sensor doesn't. M44 uses a hall type sensor and M42 uses VR.

So the crank and cam sensors on the M42 are both VR sensors?  (I'm preparing for a megasquirt install)

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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2008, 11:48:20 AM »
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So the crank and cam sensors on the M42 are both VR sensors?  (I'm preparing for a megasquirt install)


Yes, I'm running Autronic SM4 with the original sensors/triggers.

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2008, 01:18:33 PM »
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Yes, I'm running Autronic SM4 with the original sensors/triggers.


Thanks strypt! ;)

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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2008, 05:23:08 AM »
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So the crank and cam sensors on the M42 are both VR sensors? (I'm preparing for a megasquirt install)
So the M44 crank sensor too is VR, right?
thinking standalone here:rolleyes:

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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2008, 07:55:25 AM »
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So the M44 crank sensor too is VR, right?
thinking standalone here:rolleyes:


Yes but the cam sensor is hall-type on the M44.

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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2008, 10:12:44 AM »
sure for the cam sensor, that's wrote too in ETM manual!
thank you