Author Topic: Power steering block off (Read 15169 times)

EN318isPDX · « **Reply #30 on:** June 13, 2008, 03:12:29 AM »

Quote from: xwill112x;51176

if i just remove the belt will it give me horse power?

of course! anything belt driven takes HP and gas mileage

Jorgeconrico · « **Reply #31 on:** July 29, 2009, 07:19:33 PM »

I am thinking of removing the ps belt. Will this do any damage to the rack? I guess my question is that if i delete the belt do i need to do any other mods or will simply removing the ps belt suffice? Sorry in advance if this is a stupid question.

DesktopDave · « **Reply #32 on:** July 29, 2009, 09:43:27 PM »

I just pulled the belt. Significantly more resistance at low speed. Surprised me. It's not as proportional at speed either. Also, wife has informed me that she's not driving the car without it. I'm a bit disappointed. Yet...I'll be keeping it like this. I don't want her driving my car!

tjts1 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 30, 2009, 07:10:47 PM »

Draining and capping off the rack with reduce resistance significantly. Get an E36 rack while you're at it.

Jorgeconrico · « **Reply #34 on:** July 30, 2009, 09:42:33 PM »

Yea my rack is shot, i've got crazy play in the steering wheel. I do like it w/o the ps, gives the car more of a direct feel. I just went ahead and removed the belt.

tjts1 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 31, 2009, 12:04:08 AM »

Loose steering is probably worn out end links. If your rack is not leaking all it's juices in 100 miles chances are the rack is still fine. Jack up one front corner, grab the tire at 9 and 3 o'clock and jerk the tire back and fort. If you feel any play I would take a closer loot at the end links and control arms.
good luck

Justin

Jorgeconrico · « **Reply #36 on:** July 31, 2009, 06:25:27 AM »

I just replaced the tie rods, but to no avail. While i was changing them there was a small amount of ps fluid in the drivers side boot. I thought nothing of it because it was a small amount. I've got my m3 CABs and now i need to order some new control arms, hopefully that will do the job. The car does shutter while braking and i'm hoping new control arms will fix that too.

tjts1 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 31, 2009, 09:47:25 AM »

Yep, mine did the brake shudder before I changed the control arms. The ball joint where the control arm meets the body of the car was totally trashed. I suppose it could also be warped rotors so who knows. Its hard to kill a steering rack though. Even if you run it completely dry which is what I've done for the last 2 years when ditched the PS. The thing is the E30 rack has 4 turns end to end vs 3.2 turns for even the cheapest most basic E36 rack. It makes a big difference. If you're going to go to the trouble of fixing the front suspension, you might as well get an E36 rack at this point. They are all over the JYs.

max123 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 04, 2009, 06:33:26 PM »

I don't know about specific hp gain, but I was tired of dumping atf into a leaking rack, so I just cut the power steering belt until I can get the rack replaced. I would say that the their was a surprising power gain that I wasn't even expecting, the engine rev's up faster and feels lighter - I imagine it feels similar to having a lightened flywheel. Also, I was surprised by how easy it was to turn. At anything above 5 km/h the power steering does nothing. However, be warned that parallel parking requires a bit of muscle.

Final verdict - Even after I put in a new rack, I'm going to keep the power steering disconnected.

Jorgeconrico · « **Reply #39 on:** August 04, 2009, 06:56:55 PM »

I just removed the belt and i couldn't really feel a difference in hp, but I'm not going back to ps either.

asmith88 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:08:21 PM »

can this cause any damage, long or short term?

and do you guy reccomend just cutting the belt or blocking off the rack all together with or without fluid..

cheers andy

doitover · « **Reply #41 on:** September 08, 2009, 04:15:21 PM »

Definitely remove the pump. The steering effort improves significantly over just pulling the belt. I think you also get a little more road feel but that could be my wishful thinking.

Quote from: asmith88;78100

can this cause any damage, long or short term?

and do you guy reccomend just cutting the belt or blocking off the rack all together with or without fluid..

cheers andy

asmith88 · « **Reply #42 on:** September 08, 2009, 04:44:24 PM »

so block the rac off complaetley then? should i drain it or leave plenty of fluid in it?

can this cause damage?

doitover · « **Reply #43 on:** September 08, 2009, 07:43:37 PM »

you get two opinions, one, loop one side of the rack to the other and leave fluid in it. The other, just delete the hoses and either cap the ports or don't. I'm doing the no hose, no cap since I don't drive that much and I'll eventually get an e36 rack anyway.

Quote from: asmith88;78109

so block the rac off complaetley then? should i drain it or leave plenty of fluid in it?

can this cause damage?

DaveM-sport · « **Reply #44 on:** September 20, 2009, 01:32:01 PM »

You need blank both ports the fluid inside the rack won't be able to circulate.

Running a PAS rack without the PAS feels horrible to be honest.

I'd just fit an E46 rack and be done with it:cool: