So i finally got them out joined with a bit of cursing. The problem with removing them together is that you have to get the tilt just right and without a distubution leveler it is a PITA. I ended up scaring the condenser a bit and bending some sheet metal above to get it out but it can be done. All this said I'm replacing the upper oil pan which is cracked, ive been driving with it epoxied for 3 months.
Does anyone know what the little metal clips are that come out the side of the gearbox, two tiny holes, i lost in the process
thanks steve