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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2007, 03:24:54 PM »
As e9Nine mentioned, this seems to be a consistent problem with the M20 guys.  I've seen lots of posts about this on R3V and E30tech.  Maybe do a search to see how some of these guys diagnosed the problem.  Just a thought....
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2007, 04:59:14 PM »
It boils down to finding if it's rich, or lean during a hot restart. One or more leaky injectors would cause a rich condition hot, but would make a great start when cold, due to a bit of xtra fuel. I've seen fuel pressure regulators that start leaking into the intake thru the tiny vacuum line. These could really mess with your mind.......I'm wondering if this just developed, or if it has been ongoing.

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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2007, 08:18:56 AM »
Quote from: mbtech0;26358
It boils down to finding if it's rich, or lean during a hot restart. One or more leaky injectors would cause a rich condition hot, but would make a great start when cold, due to a bit of xtra fuel. I've seen fuel pressure regulators that start leaking into the intake thru the tiny vacuum line. These could really mess with your mind.......I'm wondering if this just developed, or if it has been ongoing.


Been on going for me. I believe rich or lean was the reason why o2 sensor was mentioned where ever i read it. And i've also been told that im running pretty rich so my fuel mixture is probably the cause of my issue.

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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2007, 09:50:45 AM »
Its crazy to read through all of these responses about the ECU etc, which I'm sure it could be, BUT I like to start with the easy things, or basics first,, How do all your vacuum lines look? I'm thinking the car warms up,, the hoses get soft and maybe you've got some leakage there.. I would then look at the Idle control valve, and air flow meter.. THEN I would start looking in to coolant temp, and cam position sensor,, but I highly doubt a problem there.. Leaking injectors etc etc, I wont reiterate what others have said :) Good luck on it,, I have a funky idle when I start my car up, but I know my vac hoses are trash LOL
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2007, 11:31:25 AM »
I'm sure we could all benefit from a complete fuel & vacuum hose replacement. None of our cars are even near new, right? BMW used a rather poor, in my opinion, grade of fuel hose, and I replaced miles of it in the late 80's-early 90's. It would look fine, but it would "sweat" gasoline. Customers complained of a fuel smell after turning off the engine. Some 750's burned because of this. Vacuum hose wasn't any better. I used to replace all these with Mercedes hose, the stuff with the cloth braiding on the outside, then M-B started using exactly the same junk hose as did BMW.

In the same light, the ECU is a very dependable part. The problem usually does not lie there. Temp senders can go bad over time, and there's a good place to start. Check it cold & hot, as it can fail on either end of the range. Still, my $$$$ are on injector leakdown, or leaky fuel hoses, and the latter will be obvious by the smell and the gas stains in the area of the fuel rails. The air flow meter has a potentiometer under the black cover that can wear out, and cause driveability problems of all sorts. This usually worsens over time.

Lucky me, my iS runs like a champ. starts fine, hot & cold. I'm counting my lucky stars......

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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2007, 01:57:24 PM »
Well i just change my vacuum hoses last year hoping that would've solved my problem but it didnt, I do have a few other things i know need to be changed such as thermostat and o2 sensor and possibly injectors so we'll see. Car has been running like this for quite sometime and still feels strong once it does cut out after a warm start so its not that big of a deal to me just yet. I'll just do it all slowly as money and time become available and hopefully one day, i'll have fixed the problem. If you guys get any results, please keep us posted.