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« on: May 02, 2007, 04:47:59 PM »
Surely You have seen this -> this is my favourite e30 vid...

The car is 300-350HP's S14 normally aspirated engine. The driver - Marc Fleury.

http://www.e30.kamieniwnetrze.pl/vids/Marc_Fleury.wmv
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Feel free to comment...

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 07:19:18 PM »
well... it kind of seems like a waste of an expensive motor, but man, that takes some skill to do that on a narrow road lined with trees! :D
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2007, 07:33:57 PM »
Good for a drifting video but that it's not the fast way around. There's one place where you could almost walk beside the car. I know drifting is a very popular form of motorsport but I guess I just don't get it. I keep counting "thousand one - thousand two, etc." as he lose's a tenth or two a turn.
The best drivers are sometimes the least interesting to watch. They're just so smooth. Prost, Senna, and usually Schumacher weren't really exciting to watch in that sense.

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 12:41:56 AM »
Well - of corse it is not the fastest possible way of taking turns, but it is very spectacular. The question mark was there in the topic specially to discuss this...

There is very big difference in driving method between this and the post with race red M3 racing in the roads on the other post here.

I like drifting, but I do it just in winter for two reasons:

- too weak car,
- too fast car damage on grip surface.

And it is much more safe in winter as many drivers just don't drive at all when the roads are slippy.

On the other side good drifting abilities helps alot in critical situations as You know how Your car acts when sliding during acccelerating and braking...

Do You agree?

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 07:38:05 AM »
Quote from: Abrax;25069
Well - of corse it is not the fastest possible way of taking turns, but it is very spectacular. ........
....On the other side good drifting abilities helps alot in critical situations as You know how Your car acts when sliding during acccelerating and braking...

Do You agree?

I agree :D

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 10:15:30 AM »
That's pure drifting, don't think he bothers about getting fast time cos he's not fast. That reminds me of the japanese anime - Initial D....

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2007, 12:40:23 PM »
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but that it's not the fast way around.

haha really? You don't say! :rolleyes:

I think he's losing more than 10ths. It's pretty clearly for show. :p
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 09:19:44 PM »
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That's pure drifting, don't think he bothers about getting fast time cos he's not fast. That reminds me of the japanese anime - Initial D....

x2 lol

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 09:22:50 PM »
my viewpoint on drifting: it's a basic motorsports skill... much like throwing or catching is in baseball.

anyone that expects to be a fast driver should also have the skill of being able to drive a car with the throttle.

so, who wants to go watch a throwing contest? I'll take the whole baseball game thank you very much.

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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 11:05:05 PM »
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I agree :D


Of course YOU agree.... I've been in a car w/ you, and driven behind you.... crazy bastid :eek: :eek: :eek:

:p :D

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 05:04:03 PM »
Basic motorsport skill... Right!!! We have plenty of "race" drivers here who want's to be like Kubica... Their driving habits are far from correct, and there is a sun to earth distance between what they drive and profi drivers... But they think they are fast as hell... And they almost stop at turns!

I like this movie because it is more like the show than the race... The fans they just love him at the end... It is lovely. And BTW it was done on dry road, so he was driving very fast... I like the car response and the driver humour :-)

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 05:32:31 PM »
I don't care what some of you say the man has a lot of talent. For all of you that said what he does is just a simple part of racing, I would like to see some videos of you controlling your cars sideways on two lane roads at 80+. When i see these videos then I might respect what you say more. I agree its not how you go fast around a track, but it is still a challenging task and just a different kind of motor sport.

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2007, 06:41:19 PM »
he's alright, i suppose if he had more steering angle and going downhill, his drifts would be longer and more angled.  that's the thing, drifting is subjective and based on what judges say, whereas in grip driving, fastest one wins.  i enjoy both sports and they each have their own unique level of difficulity...

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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 04:48:37 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2007, 09:47:38 AM »
Drifting is interesting to watch, and it definitely takes skill, but I find it much more fun to see how well I can balance on the limits of adhesion, rather than going over them. Plus, my car has too much grip and too little power to drift ;).

I have no idea how that guy can see out of his windshield...

On the rallying side of things, that is IMHO one of the most fun forms of auto racing to watch. I really wish that there was more TV coverage in america...
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