Author Topic: Rough calculations for my project... Canadian $ (Read 11980 times)

kowalski · « **on:** April 05, 2006, 01:52:26 PM »

some of the prices are just a guess, feel free to help me make adjustments to it so i can get it more accurate

2.1L M42
�   Crank - $300 (Total =$800?)
o    Machine work
o    Knife edge
Lighten
o    Bearings ($100)
�   Rods ($400)
o   Bearings ($40)
�   Pistons ($400)
�   Oil pump ($350)
�   Timing chain � 65$ (total = $275)
o   Tensioner � $30
o   Tensioner guard $100 (needed?)
o   Guid rail $60
o   Gaskets $20
�   Intake ($1,000)
�   Exhaust manifold ($500)
�   Turbo & piping ($800)
�   Blow off valve ($150)
�   Intercooler ($300)
�   Fuel injectors ($150)
�   Adjustable fuel pressure regulator ($80)
�   Head work ($700)
o   Valves ($100)
o   Lifters (solid) ($300
o   Cams ($350)
�   Custom dampener ($300)
�   Clutch ($400)
�   Flywheel ($400)
�   Engine management ($600)
�   Dyno tuning ($300)
�   325 rear end ($250)
Total: $9,345

i know im missing most of the gaskets, a top end gasket kit is about 150$ or so, but i'm probably gona need a thicker custom headgasket made. and various other gaskets, please no outragous comments, i'm not sure on quite a few of these prices. feel free to throw in your input.

thumper3ld · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2006, 02:24:20 PM »

Man, someone has to start mass producing these 2.1 conversions so that the mechanically challenged people, such as myself, can just whip out the credit card and buy it witout worring about whether or not I got eveything I need.

kowalski · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2006, 03:24:15 PM »

hahaha, well ill do a full list of whats needed once im done. however it might not be done for a while seeing as its a fairly expensive little project and im a student... so it dependson whether or not i can get the job i'm trying for for the summer, if i do it will be finished by the end of summer, if not, well then ill have to rely on discounts and get as much done as possible.. i take charitable donations as well:)

dude8383 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2006, 04:10:12 PM »

Total: $9,345

wow.

kowalski · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2006, 04:27:38 PM »

Quote from: dude8383

Total: $9,345

wow.

yeah, i priced everything high... most of the stuff i can get a pretty hefty discount on, so it should come out to about 7 grand, maybe less.. i hope... im sure it will be well worth it once im done tho:D

asubimmer · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2006, 05:40:02 PM »

wow looks nice, btw do you know about how much USD that is?

kowalski · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2006, 08:51:27 PM »

about 7,750, remember most of these prices are a little higher then what you could get them for, but with the added unexpected expenses it will probably even out. if you can become friends with some machinests and your local parts store, then prices drop significantly... i got 40% off at my local parts store, and a decent discount of machine work. ill post up a completed total if i complete it by the end of summer...

edit: how much did you get all your turbo stuff for?

asubimmer · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:56:09 PM »

well so far I've only spent like 350ish and all I need still is a exhaust manifold and ign retard. Not to mention the piping. If you take your time you can get amazing deals, its deff worth it to take a while to collect all the parts.

edit: opps forgot I may need a wastegate also. But I might sell my garrett t3 for something bigger, haha, so another one may or may not come w/ an internal wastegate. Although external is better.

kowalski · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:11:58 PM »

yeah, well most of the money is going to be spent building the bottom end, and top end. individual throttle bodies, custom pullies and solid lifters so i can raise my redline. crank machining, tons of head work. turboing in and of itself is fairly cheap

Gunni · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2006, 04:09:51 AM »

$7k is just do much,,,
$2k turbo setup will yet your car,, sorry

m42 fan · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2006, 07:28:57 AM »

pricing it high= smart. Things always wind up costing more than you think. Any way you look at it, $7k is a heck of a lot for a car that's probably worth ~3,000. A real eye opener into the true cost of one of these projects, for sure.

Brian

kowalski · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2006, 03:42:17 PM »

Quote from: m42 fan

pricing it high= smart. Things always wind up costing more than you think. Any way you look at it, $7k is a heck of a lot for a car that's probably worth ~3,000. A real eye opener into the true cost of one of these projects, for sure.

Brian

7,000 canadian, the car is worth 8-9,000 up here. plus i don't plan on selling the car, i really enjoy driving it, and i figure i could spend 20 grand, and buy a new car. or i could spend another 10 or so, get this car to be way faster then any 20,000$ car that i could buy, and it would like it way more, and it would be original. plus i can do all my own work on this car, where as a new car i'd just be screwd.

but yeah, at first thought i thought it could be done for 5 grand or so... but after doing some calculations its way higher.

kowalski · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2006, 08:17:56 PM »

http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452595&page=2&highlight=m42
http://www.neukin.com/bmwmanifolds.html
i'm just putting this here so i dont loose it. feel free to check it out 600hp m42 @ 34 lb's of boost

kowalski · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2006, 08:27:12 PM »

also a little update:
my brother got approved for his machines hes buying so hes going to make me my crank pully/dampener and my rods. that should bring the cost down significantly and if anyone else wants a dampener as well he'd be more then willing to make a couple of them... so let me know

edit: also my friends a HD mechanic and he can get my crank ground and worked on for free. and also machine any flat surface. so those right there have probably dropped close to a grand off total cost...

kowalski · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2006, 08:29:17 PM »

Quote from: Gunni

$7k is just do much,,,
$2k turbo setup will yet your car,, sorry

out of curriosity what exactly does this mean...?
a turbo settup will always cost you more then $2,000 for an m42 as you have to get a custom intake, custom exhuast, turbo, and intercooler, and a management system of some sort, and tuning. that right there will put you over 2 grand. and remember people this is canadian dollars!!!