Has anyone swapped a Japanese motor?

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Lord Jax

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« on: April 26, 2007, 05:29:57 PM »
There's a clip on YouTube of an e36 318 w/ an s2000 motor swap.

Which leads me to ask if anyone here has or knows anyone who has done a japanese motor swap into an e30.

If my motor goes bad I was thinking maybe swapping in a ka24de motor from a Nissan. It's the truck motor they put in the North American 240sx's. Twin cam, stout internals, lots of parts for cheap, decent horsepower n/a.

Besides custom mounting everything, swapping over the ecu, motor, trans, and accessories, what would be needed? Custom exhaust and drive shaft and maybe the rear swapped in from the 240sx?

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 06:25:58 PM »
I´m doing a CA18DET swap as we speak,
total rebuild of the engine, new turbo stuff, engine management,
new bushings ,
total will be less then $5k running at 300hp or so,

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2007, 06:47:21 PM »
i was thinking about that about a week ago.  my boss has a s2k and i was thinking that that would be sweet to have in my car.  where did you find that video. i would love to see it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 06:59:54 PM »
its on youtube
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2007, 10:10:57 PM »
I saw something months ago on ebay. It was an E30 M3 with an SR20DET that came out of a Silvia S15 with a GT40 turbo and a HALTEC standalone that supposedly made 700 horsepower.

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2007, 10:56:12 PM »
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There's a clip on YouTube of an e36 318 w/ an s2000 motor swap.


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i already knew that....i can't seem to find it on that...which would be why i asked what the address was....
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2007, 12:06:25 AM »
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I saw something months ago on ebay. It was an E30 M3 with an SR20DET that came out of a Silvia S15 with a GT40 turbo and a HALTEC standalone that supposedly made 700 horsepower.


The sr20det is the tried and true favorite as the Aussies have been doing them since the early 90's. They interviewed one guy on a video called fast 4's and rotarys(volume 2?) and he claims that he didn't fabricate any engine mounts for the conversion. He just mix and matched various factory mounts. I would like to know what combinations he used.

As for the S2000 motor, it is a tall motor and would stick above your hood. The video on youtube has the E36 hood propped up towards the back so that it can clear the valve cover.

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 12:16:05 AM »
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i already knew that....i can't seem to find it on that...which would be why i asked what the address was....



http://youtube.com/watch?v=bCo00asduEQ

Well I'm really thinking hard about a ka24de swap.

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2007, 01:08:01 AM »
someones doing the rb26 twin turbo skyline motor into an e30 on e30tech.
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2007, 09:41:49 AM »
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someones doing the rb26 twin turbo skyline motor into an e30 on e30tech.


Awesome, when I asked on e30tech about it, all I received was a few ignorant comments about how japanese motors are garbage in comparison to the mighty german motors.

Glad to see the m42 crowd is more open to the idea of cross breeding a car.

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2007, 06:45:52 PM »
Hmmm, I might be getting a 91 318is soon, and I was wondering the exact same thing. I actually own a Nissan truck with the ka24e engine, and it keeps going and going even though the truck is rusting away. It has decent torque, but I think that I would opt for the sr20det swap if I were to put a Japanese engine in…

Heres the only site I found of an sr20det swap... Only pictures
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2007, 11:20:10 AM »
WHAT A BLASPHEMY!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:  realy guys the only think you care is about bigest engine ? im gone never swap a japanese motor into my bimmer if you like just buy a japanese car some honda or whatever :( :( :(

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2007, 11:50:47 AM »
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Hmmm, I might be getting a 91 318is soon, and I was wondering the exact same thing. I actually own a Nissan truck with the ka24e engine, and it keeps going and going even though the truck is rusting away. It has decent torque, but I think that I would opt for the sr20det swap if I were to put a Japanese engine in…

Heres the only site I found of an sr20det swap... Only pictures


Why? The ka24de is accessible here in the states for cheap, and it can handle more boost and is more reliable. If you go to 240sx boards you'd be surprised to see how many guys kept their ka24de and boosted it or went n/a with carb or ITBs.

The sr20det has legendary status just because it was a fad early on in the drifting scene. It's a great motor don't get me wrong, but for something that would be easy to fix and less of a headache to pass emissions I'd say stick with the KA

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2007, 11:52:28 AM »
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WHAT A BLASPHEMY!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:  realy guys the only think you care is about bigest engine ? im gone never swap a japanese motor into my bimmer if you like just buy a japanese car some honda or whatever :( :( :(


I'm not concerned about  biggest engine. I'm concerned about the best engine for my application, reliability and price/availability of parts. ka24de are plentiful because they're so widely used in Nissan applications. Bigger displacement than my stock motor and more reliable.

If I could afford a BMW motor I would, but... gotta pay my other bills.

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2007, 03:26:05 PM »
As far as I’m concerned, an engine is an engine... just a block of metal. You shouldn’t decide on what engine to use based on its badge, but rather if it is more practical for your application.

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Why? The ka24de is accessible here in the states for cheap, and it can handle more boost and is more reliable. If you go to 240sx boards you'd be surprised to see how many guys kept their ka24de and boosted it or went n/a with carb or ITBs.

I believe the KA engine is an iron block, while the SR is aluminum so it wouldn’t upset the balance of the 318. I would also think that the internals of an engine built for boost would be stronger than that of an NA engine like the KA?
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