Mustang Injectors in an M42 engine

[Wizard]

hmmm....these are XXXX-155-XXX numbers...so I guess it's hit and miss right? As long as the connector is the same...

0-280-155-715 is the part # on the injector that has the correct connector....Some of the motors had a different style injector and part # even though the motors were the same...I can't remember if you can see the injector style without removing the intake first..

[tjts1]

There is nothing hit or miss. The information has been covered several times in this thread.

24v DOHC Ford/Mercury V6 3.0L engines. (Can't remember what years offhand but I think mid to late 90's)
0-280-155-715
LBS/HR 22.45 @ 43.5 PSI

Ford taurus 24v up to 96-97. After 97 ford went to a round injector plug. AFIK these are 24# injectors. Sort of the high end of the usable range of injectors for a naturally aspirated M42. Anything between 19#-24# will work depending on any other modifications you've done to the engine or your target AFR.


The newer style ford plug on some (98+) vehicles which we can't use are the green and black injectors on the right.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/yokomura/4BangerJP/fuel_injector/Ford_Injector_Guide.jpg

[DesktopDave]

Damn.  That's exactly what I wanted to say.  With pics.  Awesome post.

I took a look at mine for some pics, I have the Mustang 19# fatties.  They are definitely 4 hole partially shrouded injectors.

Doesn't the e36 use an air injector shroud that surrounds the injector?

[Wizard]

Sorry...DBL POST..

[Wizard]

Looks like some conflicting flow rates on these...Nevertheless they still work on fairly stock m42..(COP kit, K&N, fan delete, chipped)

0-280-155-715
LBS/HR 22.45
CC/MIN 235.9
GRAMS 169.7
PSI 43.5
BAR 3

Doesn't the e36 use an air injector shroud that surrounds the injector?

I do believe with the e36 (some years) they did change the injector type..realoem states from 1/1994 the new style injectors were used..Looks like it was a mid model changeover..

[daqqer]

tjts1 whats you opinion...

My 318iS (chip, tb mod, intake mod, intake pc-s, cai, richer af, no fuel pressure regulator tho). Engine will be stock internals. And only for Sunday/track use. What would be the best injectors performancewise for me ? I dont care about fuel consumption, and white/black smoke or nasty smells. Ah also, im probably going on MegaSquirt for the summer.

Bosch 0280155702 #22 or Bosch 0280150947 #24.5 or something else ?

I can put better fuel pump and regulator if you think thatll help anything.

Thanks alot in advance!

Ken

[flyinglizard]

I got mine from "Free flow injectors"/ Jeff lillegard
 775 843 8623   For 100$ /4
 Or do a search on Bay for the ppart #

[Torque]

Sorry to bump this thread, but it seems like an appropriate place to ask this question:

on late e36s with the air shrouded injectors, can we use earlier style injectors and just plug up the air hoses or will that wreak havoc with the ecu?

[Choking Hazard]

Just finished my head exchange/ head gasket/ timing chain/ cooling mess deletion and Mustang injector instal.  The car cranks but so far no start.  I've cranked it over a few times probably less than 1 minute in 4 or 5 tries,  I pulled a plug and could not smell or see fuel.  How long should I crank?  Does the fuel pump only run if the ignition is cycled through start first?  I thought I might try to get the pump to run for awhile before trying again.  I just can't bring myself to crank away for a long time....

[flyinglizard]

Does the tach bounce on crank?  If not, the crank sensor is not working or you bumped the connection. Maybe do a quick fuel flow check at the starter rubber hose connection.
 I did about the same things that you have swapped and it fired right off.  I think the new injectors help it run really well. Esp for the 100shipped from the E bay guy.  
 I was messing with an 84 318 today, and pulled the temp sensor off and it quit. Most of the stuff has to be hooked up and working, for these cars to run.IMHO.  
 
 I dont know anything about the E 36, if it is different than the E30. Sorry.

[cristimm]

I had an extra set of injectors from a 1992 E36 318iS that were in good condition.  It turns out that they are also 4-pintle injectors made by Lucas.  They have the following Lucas number on them: D3761FA.  The BMW part number is 136 4 1739 242   

Anybody know how these compare to the Bosch 155-710 injectors as far as cc flow and atomization?

I have the same Lucas D3761FA, 4 pintle injectors on my E36 M42.

They have the following specs:


Part Number: D3761FA
cc/min:  234
lb/hr: 22
Rating @ (Bar): 3
Ohm: 16.6
Connector: EV1


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[Choking Hazard]

Does the tach bounce on crank?  If not, the crank sensor is not working or you bumped the connection. Maybe do a quick fuel flow check at the starter rubber hose connection.
 I did about the same things that you have swapped and it fired right off.  I think the new injectors help it run really well. Esp for the 100shipped from the E bay guy.  
 I was messing with an 84 318 today, and pulled the temp sensor off and it quit. Most of the stuff has to be hooked up and working, for these cars to run.IMHO.  
 
 I dont know anything about the E 36, if it is different than the E30. Sorry.

Tach is responsive.  :confused:

I thought fuel flow check was next step too.  Is the lower hose (leading into the fuel rail) the input side? That should trace back to the fuel filter, right?

[flyinglizard]

It wont matter which hose you check , flow is flow. The chrome line is the high pressure side. I think.   Verify spark??

[4banger]

how many lb/hr do the yellow ford 302 injectors flow?

[Choking Hazard]

... flow is flow...  

it is

 Verify spark??

thats next...