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« on: March 31, 2006, 01:50:14 AM »
Anyone race w/ a cage or atleast 4 point bars, thinking about it, but can't decide, any input? Oh,and this car will be autoxing mainly, not just a little wannabe racer, it will be a trackrat...

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006, 07:08:54 AM »
Beware of having a roll bar or cage in a daily driven car. In a wreck, you will put yourself and any passenger(s) at risk. You really don't need one for auto-x. The moment you put a roll bar in you car, you are restricting yourself to 2 passengers.

Even if you are building a track car, once that track car will be daily driven, you don't need to have a cage or bar in it neccessarily.

I had a roll bar in my old car and when I got into a wreck; even though I was belted up and using an e30 euro recaro seats with bolsters, I was not held in well with the standard seat belt. On impact ( car slid backwards into a median ) my head made contact with the diagonal bar, split the foam padding, and the hat I was wearing which had a metal buckle, proceeded to slice my scalp :eek:

13 or so staples and a concussion later I was glad to be alive. A few days later I  yanked the roll bar out and sold it. I will never use one unless I have a harnesses, helmet, highest density padding and a race seat as that's the only way you are safe.

Granted I have seen cases where people have been saved by roll bars/cages on the track, for a street driven car, it provides more harm than danger.

My 2 pfennings.

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 10:42:31 AM »
I've got harnesses I wnat to use in the car, so not a big deal to have harnesses.

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2006, 10:53:19 PM »
i know its off topic but what about a 4 point harness W/ out a roll cage? is it safe? JW.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 11:20:06 PM »
If I wanted a 2-seater I would get a miata.  They handle much better than e30's to begin with too!

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2006, 11:22:26 PM »
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i know its off topic but what about a 4 point harness W/ out a roll cage? is it safe? JW.
thats what I am running right now.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2006, 09:41:42 AM »
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thats what I am running right now.

where did you mount yours down?

I did that in my old pickup w/ just harnesses.

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2006, 10:03:57 AM »
the inside mounts are mounted to the sliders and the outsides are mounted to where the seatbelt bar thing on the floor (next to the door) was. I removed that bar. I need to drill holes in the tranny tunnel I guess so I can tighten the belts more.
 
the sholder belts are mounted to the rear seat belt mounts.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2006, 10:39:57 AM »
Harnesses should always be mounted to a harness bar.  Spine compression doesnt sound very fun to me.

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2006, 11:32:41 PM »
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If I wanted a 2-seater I would get a miata.  They handle much better than e30's to begin with too!

Ya.....but it will still be miata. everybody's got those (atleast where i live they do)....and there ugly, spend the extra cash and get a honda S2002, or better yet a Lotus elise:)
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thats what I am running right now.

In you DD? im just wondering cause im considering it, is it a pain to get in and out of all the time? thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2006, 12:59:47 AM »
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In you DD? im just wondering cause im considering it, is it a pain to get in and out of all the time? thanks.

I dunno bout him, but I ran them in my pickup for a few years and it gets humorous if you don't have the camlock ones watching people try and figure out the harnesses. I never had any issues w/ my RCI 5 point ones. The only part I didn't like was how big the buckle part was because it wasn't a camlock so it got uncomfortable w/ how upright the seat kept you in the gut, but overall I loved mine to death and I wanna do it again in my bimmer

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2006, 08:13:29 AM »
yeah its actually kinda fun, friends love to ride in my car because its a "toy".  Its not really hard to get in and out.  My harness has a buckle like normal belts.  Ohh and yes its a DD
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2006, 12:51:20 PM »
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yeah its actually kinda fun, friends love to ride in my car because its a "toy".  Its not really hard to get in and out.  My harness has a buckle like normal belts.  Ohh and yes its a DD

Is yours a 2 inch or 3 inch belt?

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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2006, 02:12:25 PM »
2" corbeau's
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2006, 01:47:46 PM »
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2" corbeau's

Ya thats what i want. thanks for the info.....i think im gonna do it.
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