E36 M42 Overheating,Everything changed PLEASE HELP

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E36 M42 Overheating,Everything changed PLEASE HELP
« on: November 10, 2020, 02:32:18 PM »
This is the first time I ever use a forum but I REALLY REALLY need help. I bought a E36 318is in what looked to be in decent condition. I drove it down about 25-30 miles right after buying it and no problems till I got home. But about a block away from my house the check transmission light came on and went into limp mode (now I own a 99 328i E36 so I instantly new it was the alternator especially after driving that long and no jerks or anything in the tranny) so I go to deeper looking and the POS owner really had a ball with the engine wiring harness.

Literally cut all three transmission cable and reattached them with electrical tape, cut the alternator cables and cut the starter cables as well as having a literally broken in half starter in. So I would say the car sat a month while I gathered everything including a engine harness. When I got it all I installed (I changed engine harness, starter, alternator, intake manifold gasket both top and bottom,oil change , valve cover gasket ,cables and spark plugs while I was there) I KNOW most was unnecessary but I wanted everything to be A1. Changed it all turned the car on and it ran like ass for 10 minutes I would say while I figured out what was wrong.

After tightening down the Upper intake and disconnecting and reconnecting the battery it ran like a dream. Took it for a 10 minute ride no tranny lights nothing. Then the temperature starts to creep up at the light I get to the house (never gets to red just would basically stay 3/4 or just a tad higher) so I think we’ll I’m at the stop and it got hot at idle so it must be the clutch fan. NOPE , then did thermostat then did radiator then did water pump. This thing is still heating up and creeping up super slow,( I’m testing it at idle not on the road) if it is still not too hot just passed the middle and I accelerate it’ll go back down but now if its too hot already, 100% there is 0 coolant loss and that I have bled the system with the car elevated.

I and dumbfounded right now because I literally drove the car 30-40 minutes before with no heat up and after I changed the other parts not even touching anything cooling wise it’s magically starts to heat up. PLEASE HELP AND SORRY FOR MAKING THIS LONG

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Re: E36 M42 Overheating,Everything changed PLEASE HELP
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2020, 09:47:12 AM »
Welcome to the 'club, sorry to hear about your problems. It sounds like the PO left that car sitting for a while, you'll be chasing down a few gremlins. IMHO BMWs have a few well known problems that get worse if they sit still for too long.

TL;DR: I ended up buying a cheap HF radiator pressure tester. It's pretty easy to find pressure leaks with that tool, you can actually hear them. It's not perfect - I don't like the manual air pump, can't hook it up to a compressor, but it's only like $80 all in, comes with a decent set of pressure adapter caps too.

My E30 ran uncomfortably warm for years, at 3/4. I did a lot of work to track it down. Did the hose delete mod, didn't help. Two new coolant manifolds (make sure you avoid the cheap URO junk). New low-temp thermostat, new fanstat, new aux fan & resistor, new clutch fan. Still overheating.  >:(  But then it started the 'creeping' temperature rise too, touching the red zone even at highway speeds. I parked it until I could figure that out.  ???

The pressure tester immediately found several leaks. Heater core was really bad. The radiator expansion tank seals were also leaking. I didn't have any of the 'normal' M42 problems...water pump, radiator & expansion tank were all OK. Swapped out the heater, core, no more overheating. The car started acting normal after that, so I swapped back to the normal thermostat & fanstat. Quick warm-up, temp needle reliably just under 1/2.
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Re: E36 M42 Overheating,Everything changed PLEASE HELP
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 03:16:34 PM »
How was the heater core causing the temperature to creep? Was it leaking profusely and draining out of the car without you noticing? I have not heard of that particular failure mode before!

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Re: E36 M42 Overheating,Everything changed PLEASE HELP
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2020, 10:04:19 AM »
How was the heater core causing the temperature to creep? Was it leaking profusely and draining out of the car without you noticing? I have not heard of that particular failure mode before!

It wasn't a big leak, but in combination with the radiator leaks it was enough. The only symptom I noted was a whiff of coolant every once in a while, and only when the heater was on. The heater core had popped a gasket in the end tank. I was surprised that it totally cured the problem, but I'd already spent an awful lot of time going through everything else.

The big problem with BMW cooling systems appear to be a low tolerance for pressure leaks, especially due to their faulty integrated pressure bottle design. My E30 already had BMW's fix for the heater core - that little supplemental bypass thermostat was spliced into the heater core supply hose.
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Re: E36 M42 Overheating,Everything changed PLEASE HELP
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2020, 04:15:28 PM »
Interesting. I definitely catch a whiff of coolant a lot of the time when I turn the heater on, although the coolant level does not really seem to be dropping. The heater core is basically the only remaining original part in the cooling system, so maybe it is about time that I replaced it and the other parts associated with it.

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