e30 318i c 1992

[Darky]

Hi

First question where are you from? Europe?
So we can figure out what's locally available.

Secondly that turbo kit nick suggested is good won't break the bank and all the hassles are already sorted for you!

Because you don't need to turbo the engine to get in that power range in fact I'd say it's already there.
Was it running poorly?

Regards
Rohan

[TheArchitect]

Im in Toronto, Canada.

That be great kit for a dd, but I'm making a dd/ show car and its not exactly what I was thinking of. Im looking to make it clean compact and keep everything original.

No my engine is feisty, id say its almost the original 130hp. I want to be around 230 to 300 hp total.

[TheArchitect]

Hello,

Ive been reading around and see some people upgrade the internals and others do not. I was wondering if I was to upgrade the internals what would I need to do to secure 250-300hp on a stock m42 engine? Now  the timing has been re done and a new head gasket was put in but I'm not sure of the specs and if it was paper. Now I'm not racing this car and this will be a dd car / show car.

[Darky]

Hi

250 - 300 hp is possible, but certainly not as a daily driver. That's race with massive compression and high revs!
Unless you go forced induction.

200 hp is a far more realistic normally aspirated goal and that still takes abit of doing.

Cheers

[TheArchitect]

Hey Darky.

Why is 250hp not dd worth? is it just to much power at one time, drive ability?

And 200 hp is only 60 more hp, is it worth spending money to get that?

If that's the case why not get the 700$ ebay kit and then slowly swap out for quality parts. I understand with the ebay you pay for what you get and the quality and reliability will be awful.

I'm asking out of curiosity and sheer knowledge.

Thank you

[Darky]

Ok for 250 hp or more normally aspirated

Lightened crank and flywheel, therefore idle will suck. No momentum and no air con while stationary it will stall when the compressor kicks in.

Oversized valves and head work probably make your idle worse.

Then there's 12:1 ratio that will be required, which puts a lot of strain on piston rings valve seals etc

Then there's itbs and camshafts! Worse again.

Not really a daily driver worth a dam.

My 2c anyway

[TheArchitect]

Ok for 250 hp or more normally aspirated

Lightened crank and flywheel, therefore idle will suck. No momentum and no air con while stationary it will stall when the compressor kicks in.

Oversized valves and head work probably make your idle worse.

Then there's 12:1 ratio that will be required, which puts a lot of strain on piston rings valve seals etc

Then there's itbs and camshafts! Worse again.

Not really a daily driver worth a dam.

My 2c anyway

Ok i get some of what your saying and Thank you.

So at max 100 hp increase. what Kind of turbo would be good for this? I like garret but there $$$$. Oh are a 100 hp turbos to small?

[Darky]

I'd seriously go for the kit that has previously been mentioned, takes out all the hard work and is a nice dd car.
Have a look at the build thread anyway at least.

Unless your doing it to learn?

[TheArchitect]

I looked at the kit and I'm not a fan of some of the things on it. I want to build my own to building it the way I want it and look the way I want it to look also to take out the cost of there labour and markup.

I have recently took a turbo out of a 1988 ford thunder bird and the air filter. I'm looking to use it, but I'm concerned it might have to much boost around 12psi apparently online. Anyone use it? or know anything else about it. If I can use this turbo it will make my build very easy and if not maybe get one from a 1.9t vw.

[Darky]

Hi

What's the engine capacity of the thunderbird?

Regards

[keflaman]

I had an '88 Turbo Coupe back in the day. That fracker was FAST!!

I embarrassed more than a few hot rodders with that little 2.3L.

[DesktopDave]

I had an '88 Turbo Coupe back in the day. That fracker was FAST!!

I embarrassed more than a few hot rodders with that little 2.3L.

Totally off-topic here...but...
I dated a gal who drove a Cougar XR7...that car was an eye-opener. Despite the pokey automatic it was devilishly fast. It even had acceptable handling. She routinely humiliated my poor little VW Golf. We'd go hunting for 5.0 Mustangs and Trans Ams in that car.

We now return to your previously-scheduled programming...

[Darky]

Hi

12 psi is probably a bit much for standard engine 8 psi would be the most you could safely do in a daily driver.
But that has nothing to do with the turbo. That's the blow offs problem.

2.3 litre engine turbo will do but it might take a bit to spoil up. But in saying that if you only go to 8 psi or less that will be fine.

My 2c
Rohan

[TheArchitect]

apparently is 2300 cm2 its only 190 hp so that's why I'm wondering is psi related to the size of the turbo. like if your turbo is smaller and runs more boost  does a bigger turbo have a lower boost? boost is the amount of air being forced into the air intake. Or am I wrong.  http://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/ford_usa/thunderbird_9gen/thunderbird_9gen_turbo_coupe/1988.html

[Darky]

Hi

Somethings off

S14 2.3 l 210 hp normally aspirated 1 atm 2.3 l capacity

Thunderbird 2.3l 190 hp forced induction 12 psi or 1.8 atm giving 4.1 l effective.

That's a quick and dirty way of doing this. But you should get the idea!

Regards Rohan