M42 build for E36 Compact

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #150 on: February 06, 2015, 09:05:18 PM »
I bet that overlap is crazy! Since you are going this mental, any reasons for not picking the 307 / 298°??s too mental :)??
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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #151 on: February 06, 2015, 09:18:02 PM »
Glad to hear you found the issue and it was a straightforward fix.

That overlap is mental. Going to be a screamer for sure!
-Nick
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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #152 on: February 07, 2015, 10:17:55 AM »
You can't post engine porn like that V8 a few posts back and not say what it is. The distributor at the rear of the head looks Italian but Ferraris of that era had one on each head. And timing belts. Spill!
Pi is apparently the multiplier for your engine swap budget as well.

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #153 on: February 07, 2015, 05:00:34 PM »
My guess was a Cossie DFV, but I have never touched one so Im not sure  :-\

You might have covered it already, but what coils are you planning on using?
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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #154 on: February 08, 2015, 09:52:58 AM »
I bet that overlap is crazy! Since you are going this mental, any reasons for not picking the 307 / 298°??s too mental :)??

Yes - any more would, apparently, need titanium in the valve train. I may well be on the edge of acceptable valve train weight for these cams, as it is. The next step would be to go for 5mm valves from the S62 engine along with the Ti parts.

You can't post engine porn like that V8 a few posts back and not say what it is. The distributor at the rear of the head looks Italian but Ferraris of that era had one on each head. And timing belts. Spill!

That's a very rare Alfa Romeo engine from the 1960s, the whole thing was a total mess with a corroded front end, the replacement was machined out of a solid piece of aluminium.

My guess was a Cossie DFV, but I have never touched one so Im not sure  :-\

You might have covered it already, but what coils are you planning on using?

There was a DFV on the dyno when I was there this week, built by http://www.geoffrichardsonengines.com/ they're some sort of insane, DFVs eat their blocks in about 8 hours of total running time. A new DFV block costs 20K. 2.5K per hour running time for the block alone, chuck in some rebuild costs and you're probably looking at five thousand pounds an hour.

I'll be using a Bosch Motorsport coil pack, wasted spark, as I have a pack that was going to go on my Honda B16B engine.

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #155 on: February 08, 2015, 05:42:31 PM »
Awesome work.

What are the plans on the exhaust side? (had a scan but didnt see any mention yet)

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #156 on: February 09, 2015, 04:05:55 PM »
The suggested setup (from a 240bhp M42) is a 4/2/1 manifold (header) with:

55cm 45mm dia. outside diameter primaries.
20cm 51mm dia. secondaries.
63.5 mm single.

But... that's from a German car where the steering is on the other side to mine - my stock manifold has been piped round the steering column so I will have to see how close to the suggested setup the fabricator will be able to get to.

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #157 on: February 09, 2015, 07:31:59 PM »
I have a rhd car and managed nigh on identical dimensions to yours ( primary were 38mm) around the steering and had space to spare. If you pm me your email I can send pics of the layout as a reference. May save some head scratching up front.

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #158 on: February 10, 2015, 02:45:54 AM »
Has anyone looked at sequential  pairing of exhaust primaries or tried it?

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #159 on: February 14, 2015, 12:22:16 PM »
I have a rhd car and managed nigh on identical dimensions to yours ( primary were 38mm) around the steering and had space to spare. If you pm me your email I can send pics of the layout as a reference. May save some head scratching up front.

PM sent mate

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #160 on: February 27, 2015, 09:42:09 AM »
Glad I found this thread, I am doing a similar build but struggling to find someone to do the head for me.

Are you in the UK?


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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #161 on: February 28, 2015, 02:39:01 PM »
Hello mate, yes I am in the UK, PM your details and we'll have a chat, I can put you in touch with the people I've used.

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #162 on: March 11, 2015, 03:58:11 PM »
Two weeks ago the engine was taken from its home for the last year

To the garage where it's going to be fitted.

The old engine is out, when I removed one of the engine mounts I found a piece of piston, it seemed that I managed to blow the M44 up properly, as the piston was out of the side of the block - thankfully right in webbing between engine mount bolts - that smacks of oil starvation - so I think an accusump might be on the purchasing list.

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #163 on: March 14, 2015, 07:46:58 PM »
Please remember to post pics of M44 carnage!!
-Nick
91 E30 M42 with VEMS

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Re: M42 build for E36 Compact
« Reply #164 on: March 15, 2015, 02:57:13 PM »
Thats already been weighed in for scrap.

The M42 now has gone beyond this
To having the box and everything else on it - ready to be installed.