Finally got the turbo manifold!!!

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« on: December 15, 2006, 03:55:54 PM »
I'll load pics up later tonight but the test fit is great!!! Its all shinny and wonderfull :)
 
edit: pics up!!
« Last Edit: December 18, 2006, 07:45:05 PM by asubimmer »
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2006, 06:11:05 PM »
how dare you tease us with no pics

we demand pics
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2006, 01:00:10 AM »
k camera is being dumb so pics in the morning ;)  
 
it is a x50 turbo manifold that I picked up.  I still need to trim off 2 of the pipes but it will be great.  I'm really excited how well made it is and how well it should spool.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2006, 10:54:48 PM »
mmkay the long awaited...
 

 

 

 
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2006, 11:20:25 PM »
haha i thought my eyes were playing tricks on me..

how difficult is it going to be to trim of the 2 pipes? how much ya score it for if you don't mind me asking.


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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2006, 11:59:58 PM »
yeah it won't be too bad to take two off.  I'm going to cut them off and head to Korman to weld it all back up.  I'm also going to put in a pipe for an external wastegate.  This is the manifold thats on ebay, I bought it from the seller ETD Motors.  I may buy some more and fix em up if more people are interested.  They look awsome and you would never guess that it was in that price bracket.  The should spool quite a bit faster than jon's and way less $.
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2006, 04:15:33 AM »
From the pictures it looks like the #5-6 are ad on to the manifold,
cutting them right off should make it perfect for a M42,

And welding that closed shouldn´t be a problem
why didn´t you get one of those $450 turbo kits, intercooler, manifold, turbo even??

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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2006, 07:21:51 AM »
Quote from: asubimmer;15772
 The should spool quite a bit faster than jon's and way less $.


Mind telling me how its going to spool faster.

Theyre cheap b/c they're made from thin materials, assembled for dirt cheap in asia, then electropolished to hide any welding flaws. Theyre all of the same construction as the ssautochrom, obx, etc etc that we've all heard stories about since the beginning with the honda kids.

Nothing against other options on the market. Ive just been around doing this thing for way longer than Ive been into BMW's and have seen my fair share of this stuff before. You get what you pay for.

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From the pictures it looks like the #5-6 are ad on to the manifold,
cutting them right off should make it perfect for a M42,


The runners your talking about are 1 and 2. This is a bottom mount manifold. Flange is too close to the head to be used as a top mount and youll probably need to make a custom motor mount to clear the compressor housing. But im sure he'll figure that out when he bolts it on.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2006, 07:33:50 AM by jon volk »

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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2006, 07:49:03 AM »
Ahh I see, I can see how it would interfere with the head, although it should work as a bottom mounted manifold then anyway, if room allows it too,
I can see that the downpipe might be at a hard angle clearing the firewall

asubimmer how about measuring the thickness of the pipes?

Jon they are mostly cheap because they are greatly mass produced,
All those ssautochrome manifold and xs power are all made in the same factory. So it´s a factory that just makes manifolds probably around the clock even
I have seen one of those ebay units on a Nissan, and even after a few years of abuse it still hasn´t cracked yet, although the chrome is fugly now but the manifold remains intakt and the turbo wasn´t braced to the motor but hanging from the manifold with the exhaust hanging on it as well,
What I hear is that there quality has gone up, but not enough so all manifolds  give the same results, some give great lasting while others don´t make it down the street, all coming from the same place and looking identical

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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2006, 12:35:38 PM »
I use to have the bottom mount manifold on my car, it was the biggest nightmare squeezing everything down there.  Hopefully you wont run into so many problems like I did.  I went to the plumbing supply store and made my own top mount manifold out of weld together fittings for and it is so much easier.

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2006, 07:02:23 PM »
jon actually the welds are awsome and so is everything. they are really thick and I just can't find any probs with it. They smoothed out the welds on the inside of the pipes perfect and the outside is also VERY clean. They are mass produced so they are much cheaper. For the record my friend has one of the SSautochrom headers for a NA and it has held up great and actually helps power. SSautochrom used to be a bad company but since the complaints they have stepped it up and have really nice quality. Also it is a TOP mount manifold. You can put them on upside down for a bottom mount also but they are designed as top mounts. And to your question about spool time Jon, it will spool considerably faster b/c of the short pipes. Equal length is better for a dyno queen but lets be real, this is a 4 cylinder ;)
 
For the $ saved in this manifold you will have more $ for things like a more efficient turbo etc.
 
Gunni I would have bought one of those kits but I already had everything but the manifold and I kick myself for it but I still got a great deal on all my parts. So no harm ;)
 
I will find out how much time and $ goes into cutting and rewelding these and get back to you guys. Even w/ the price of a great welder I really can't see these being more than like $400 shipped in the US.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2006, 07:47:45 PM »
First off my manifold is a short tubular design. Its far from equal length. There's probably no measureable difference in spool time between the two. If anything my collector design is smoother.

Id like to see a turbo bolt onto that flipped upside down (attached to the head that is). Im guessing you havent tried yet.

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2006, 07:52:09 PM »
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Id like to see a turbo bolt onto that flipped upside down (attached to the head that is). Im guessing you havent tried yet.



Heres why.

Turbo scrolls toward the valve cover. (unless its bolted on backwards in which it will hit the shock tower.



Note the direction the turbo scrolls in relation to the manifold. It will be reversed up top.



Compare to a flange location thats designed specifically for the motor/chassis combo.

« Last Edit: December 18, 2006, 07:56:19 PM by jon volk »

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2006, 07:56:12 PM »
ohh you of little faith ;)
 
It fits great.  How thick is your flange and piping?  And the manifold I bought IS A TOP MOUNT.  Once I cut it up and all I'll post up pics of it on the car.  The M42 is at an angle, but the turbo will still be able to clear the VC/head.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2006, 07:58:35 PM »
1/2" thick flanges, ~1/8" piping.