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2002maniac

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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2006, 08:11:00 AM »
Quote from: Euro Nation;15083
The depth of the plunger from the bottom of the lifter would be good to know. Eyeballing it says ~.280"



.2685"

Your eyeball might be a bit off :P

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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2006, 08:43:26 AM »
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shouldnt it be measured from the top though since thats what the lifter rests on


If the height is the same then all points will be the same lifter for lifter regardless of what end they were measured from.

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.2685"

Your eyeball might be a bit off :P


At midnight following an 18r work day when I have to be back up at 5AM... yeah. It might have been off .0115":p
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2006, 09:03:01 AM »
The VW lifter part number is 050109309h
I have a set on order and I will be comparing them to the stock BMW lifters once they get here I think they are the same dimensionaly as the BMW lifters.

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2006, 12:02:30 PM »
Good thread guys, watching with interest! Thanks!
Have some of the late M42 lifters in mine at the moment, but have some evil intermittent tapping noises from them, so will shortly be changing them (the sooner the better!). Am very interested in the VAG parts, are they cheaper? will be like old times, I miss my mk1 golf!

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2006, 01:08:29 PM »
Quote from: Euro Nation;15094
If the height is the same then all points will be the same lifter for lifter regardless of what end they were measured from.


yeah i passed by the overall height i guess

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2006, 03:55:48 PM »
the lifters are cheap at 130 US for a set of 16. Tim_S with all due respect why would you miss the Mk1's I had close to 20 of those cars and dont miss the lack of handling and poor head design. Not to say thay are bad cars but they aint all that.

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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2006, 05:27:04 PM »
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the lifters are cheap at 130 US for a set of 16. Tim_S with all due respect why would you miss the Mk1's I had close to 20 of those cars and dont miss the lack of handling and poor head design. Not to say thay are bad cars but they aint all that.


They're cute. You can't help but love them :D

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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2006, 06:03:52 PM »
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The VW lifter part number is 050109309h
I have a set on order and I will be comparing them to the stock BMW lifters once they get here I think they are the same dimensionaly as the BMW lifters.


I'll back that up... it's the lightweight part number.

As for the MK1s; they handled well enough for them to race bodies and performance companies to base more than one racing series on them. Fast time of the day at the local auto-x is usually a guy with a 8v Scirocco 1 if it's wet. If it's dry he's 2nd behind a turbo miata. I'd say they handle pretty well :D  My MK1 count is 19 and I still own three.

Where did you find that price of $130 for 16? Anyone know the weight of an M42 lifter?
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2006, 06:06:55 AM »
yeah mk1 golfs are fun! I felt it had a lot of character, was a hoot to drive, and was very rapid. i had a 2l 8v with wild cam and big valve head, among other thigns. I rebuilt the thing from the ground up and was pretty fond of it. Had a corrado interior and a BBS bodykit, it was great! I'll dig out a pic later. sure it felt like it was made of baked bean cans, but I do miss it. it handled very nicely too. It's a completely different car to the BMW, I couldn't compare and of course I like the BM, but that's not to say I'm not still a veedub (and audi!) nut too.

Ok, so with the lifters, have we confirmed they will work? Havent seen it confirmed that the groove is in the same location and that the lifter will pump sufficiently. I'm also struggling to find a cheap source in the UK; there's a few of the heavier part number lifters on ebay (UK) though very cheaply, and right now getting rid of the tapping has to be a priority for me so I might risk buying some.

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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2006, 09:55:45 AM »
Well I found the lifters at fourseasontuning.com and were the brazilian lifter and were 130 for a set of 16. The stock M42 lifters were 72 grams each with out oil. I just got my new lifters but they are the wrong ones 050109309J's and not the H's so I will have to talk to James West at four seasons and see what is up. But since I have them I will take some measurements so that we can compare these VW lifters and the BMW M42 lifters.


overall height:26.05mm-1.025"
diameter:35mm-1.378"
depth of oil groove to top, top of oil groove:13.8mm-.540"
oil groove width:2.5mm-.095"

some of the measurements are the best my eyes could see so they may not be spot on but damn close.
These weight 65.8 grams
The ones I got are the 034109309xx lifters which are OEM not light weight
« Last Edit: December 07, 2006, 10:48:05 AM by dino245 »

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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2006, 01:01:59 PM »
so did u get the situation sorted out?

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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2006, 03:34:05 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2009, 01:52:16 AM »
Any new updates on the lightweight VW lifters???