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« on: March 12, 2006, 06:56:31 PM »
Well i overheated my car, and the head cracked. So i got another head from and e36, which the machinest said was perfect, but i had him resurface it anyways along with the valve job. I got all the stuff put back together, made sure the head was seated right, torqued it to 22lbs, then 90degrees, then 90 degrees (seemed pretty damn tight, maybe too much). Now, after driving for a few miles there is oil in the coolant and white stuff (water) in the oil. what fucking gives? what could i have done wrong?

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2006, 07:21:45 PM »
the profile gasket? i know it was a huge pain in the ass when i had my head off. its super finicky. i'm willing to bet money that if you pull of the timing chain cover on the head that your problem will be there. Oil and coolent flow through there in abundance so check it out when putting it back together use "the right  stuff" a thin bead of it along the gasket (the rubber one, not the head gasket).
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2006, 07:32:12 PM »
When putting it together i checked and as far as i could tell the profile gasket was seated right. It might be left over from the last overheating, but i think there is water comming out th exhaust too.

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2006, 02:10:06 AM »
Did you have the timing case off as well?  There is a HUGE gasket behind it that separates some coolant & oil flow.  Other than that, I guess profile gaket, or maybe the head gasket seated improperly?

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2006, 03:14:24 AM »
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Did you have the timing case off as well?  There is a HUGE gasket behind it that separates some coolant & oil flow.  Other than that, I guess profile gaket, or maybe the head gasket seated improperly?


i thought that was the profile gasket?
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2006, 09:08:43 AM »
I ran the car for a few more minutes and the water in the cooling system is still crystal clear, and i know its a long shot but im going to try changing the oil and hoping that the white stuff i saw was just some moisture that was in there or the assembly lube

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2006, 01:14:15 PM »
Good luck, hope it is the case!

The profile gasket is the big rubber one that site between the head & timing case.  The one I am referring to lies behind the timing case, between it & the block.  Failure there is highly unlikely though.

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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2006, 09:27:59 PM »
yeah i didnt have the timing case off. Im pretty sure the profile gasket was right as i checked it with my work light and the block was also sitting flat on the HG with out the bolts in yet. Jordan said that because i didnt chase the threads (just blew them out with the compressor) that the block might be cracked. I dont know how likely that is, but if its the case, does anyone know where i can source one? while im in there, I might be needing the m47 crank too

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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2006, 09:37:41 PM »
Nick,
     I saw that someone on the e30 board on bf.c was parting out a 318is, and they had the engine available, asking $500.  You might want to look for that thread.  He may be willing to deal, since iirc there has not been much interest in that thread.

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2006, 01:42:59 AM »
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Nick,
     I saw that someone on the e30 board on bf.c was parting out a 318is, and they had the engine available, asking $500.  You might want to look for that thread.  He may be willing to deal, since iirc there has not been much interest in that thread.


If it was the guy in Boulder colorado I am going to pick up the motor whenever he gets it out of the car.  There are a few other 318's aprting out though.  Check on r3v.

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2006, 09:23:41 PM »
well i just drained the oil, and it didnt look too bad. There was some white, but no more then you would get from just blowing on it up close. I put the plug back on for now to keep moisture out but tmr morning im going to take it off to get any remaining oil out, then fill it and test drive. The block was sitting there for almost a month with just a towel over it, in an unheated garage, so maybe there is hope.

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2006, 10:07:13 AM »
fuck, it happend again. I'll go to the dealer to get all the gaskets, then start working on it today

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2006, 05:51:25 PM »
You should sit back and take a look at all your issues with the car to date. Is it your handywork/rushing through the work you do with the car or other reasons why your car always has issues?

Plan your approach before you take your next steps at least.

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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2006, 06:46:40 PM »
I think all i can do now is take the head off and check for messed gaskets, cracked block, ect. I hope it didnt do any permanent damage to it
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2006, 11:33:57 AM »
just got the head off, didnt find any thing too out of the ordanary, but the HG was wet in a couple spots, mainly in the lower left corner, dont know if thats from when i took it off or not. Check the pics and tell me what you think, and do the cyl walls look normal?

I checked the block for cracks and didnt find any, could there be one that i couldnt see? also where can i get those special disks that you stick on the drill clean the top of the bock? some place like the auto parts store or some place like home depot?  I am also in pregress of testing the water temp sender.