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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 20, 2014, 06:15:06 AM »

No its not stupid. I have a standalone on my car and the only engine mod is bigger cams. I got rid of the AFM since its a MAP based system.

Throttle response is much improved, engine is tuned properly for my setup, I can datalog to see what the engine is doing for problem solving. When I make future upgrades I can adapt the tune to take full advantage of them.

With the mod list you said, its a good candidate for standalone!

okey thanks stand allone doesn't make the car more unreliable?

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 19, 2014, 03:49:43 PM »

just one more question :p
is stand allone a stupid upgrade whan the engine will be pretty stock? i will only get itb's,cams, COP and maybe bigger injectors if this is possible without upgrading pistons ect... i won't rise te rpms higher than 7250 caus it's mainly a street car and i don't whant solid lifters.

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 19, 2014, 12:51:01 PM »

it's to late, my head is mest up by beemers :p
i found a good tuner (KMS) some of there cars -> https://www.youtube.com/user/kronenburgautosport/videos
he is making a NA 200hp+ rally e30 318is now and he is verry helpful. thanks a lot guys for al the info!
grtz

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 18, 2014, 10:42:53 PM »

A standalone could probably be had for less cost, but there is work involved. There are people running M42 now based on many systems so you should be able to get the trigger settings easily enough.

You will need to tune/have it tuned.

The best thing to do is find someone who you want to tune the engine and see what they prefer. Results are always better using what your tuner recommends. If you are going to tune it then the options are more open.

some guys i know told me a full functional stand allone+ tuned engine wil cost me easely 2500euro, are they right? cause non of tha ever had a stand alone..

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 18, 2014, 01:16:11 PM »

Interesting, not sure if its tuneable or if its just a pre set program. My assumption is it just simulates the AFM so the chip is still needed. For that cost, might as well install a standalone instead.

Alpha-N means using the throttle position for load instead of MAP/MAF/AFM.

a stand allone cost allot more, not? still nit wide band lambda sensor? al the cables and shit, the tune..
or am i wrong?

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 17, 2014, 12:29:37 PM »

and do you roughly know how mucht a decent stand allone will cost me? it doesn't have to be one with a lot of options, if i can drive without my air flow meter and if it's tuneable/programmable and good for street use it's gooed for me.

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Engine management / Re: stand alone engine management

« on: September 16, 2014, 10:51:56 PM »

Hi Sjoerd,

Could you clarify the question?

By definition stand alone engine management are flexible, configurable engine management units which can be used in any situation street/race/whatever. By 'street use' do you have a particular requirement you are trying to fufil? Please elaborate.

For what its worth I use a LinkG4. It seems they have a dealer in Belgium ->Custom Import Arts, Servaas Daemsstraat 83, Noorderwijk 2200, BELGIUM

well is't my sunday driver and i like to drive it fast true some twisty roads, but also like to cruise it when i'm takig the gilfriend out, and somthimes i'm stuck in traffic to..
i wan't my air flow meter to be gone, and i wan't it to be programmable and the engine has to run smooth in all conditions (i don't it to run bad when it's hor or i'm driving on mountains)

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 16, 2014, 10:47:11 PM »

Go megasquirt:

This guy builds PnP systems and you can get them setup how you want.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=204722

okey thanks
Dederic Motorsports Plug and Play Standalone Engine Management System for m42, m50nv, m50tu, s50 <- so this is the one i need? (perfect for street use and pragrammable) and nothing else is needed?
grtz

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Engine management / stand alone engine management

« on: September 16, 2014, 01:49:37 PM »

wich are good stand allone's for my m42b18 (i live in belgium) for street use? can't find good ones for street use..
i don't think it's important but it's for running my m42 with other cams, dbila itb's and custom carbon airbox

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 16, 2014, 01:17:11 PM »

It doesn't compensate for temperature or altitude.

I would first research what your tuners like to use. Then make your decision as to what direction you will go.

Cheers,
~Ralph

aaah, okey.
i just maild those guy's and i will call them tomorow but can you advice me somthing that is perfect for street use and alot of people use on theire m42'?
grtz

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 16, 2014, 12:58:41 PM »

It's not ideal for the street but could be done.

Find out what your local tuner likes to use for stand alone systems and go with that one.

Cheers,
~Ralph

why isn't is ideal for street use?
we don't realy have alot of tuners here in belgium, i would need to go to holland (about 800km) to get to e proffesional tuner so i wold realy like to know almost evrethig before i start this project
grtz

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 16, 2014, 12:00:20 PM »

so alpha N is not so good for the street if i'm reading correctly?
and this is what i actualy need? http://www.dbilas-shop.com/Products/Engine-management/Engine-Management/engine-control-units/dbTronic-4000-ECU-stand-alone-plastic-housing-without-Barometer-with-Software::6336.html and this is programmable? and this will let my engine run more smoothly than alpha/N and does not depend on hot ore cold ore other variables?

i'm a real rooky in al that electronic/programming stuff :s

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 15, 2014, 10:45:44 PM »

Interesting, not sure if its tuneable or if its just a pre set program. My assumption is it just simulates the AFM so the chip is still needed. For that cost, might as well install a standalone instead.

Alpha-N means using the throttle position for load instead of MAP/MAF/AFM.

and what are the advantages with a stand alone unit? (much more expensive)?

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 15, 2014, 01:34:08 PM »

i yust want to know if it is just as simpel as installing the Alpha/N - control unit and getting rid of my air meter?
and can i use COP with this alpha/N

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Swaps, Turbos, Buildups / Re: Alpha/N - control unit

« on: September 15, 2014, 12:27:22 PM »

i don't know i'm asking u guys :p
Alpha/N - control unit says : alpha/N - control unit for driving without air flow meter of electronic injection systems.
 Simulates to the ECU the air flow meter or the air mass sensor. and i don't realy know how it works.. instal the alpha/N and remove the air meter and put a filter straight on the airbox like they do with e30 m3's witj carbon airboxes..

i realy don't have a idee how it works and if i yust need to install the Alpa/N to remove air meter or do i need to buy other senosors..
grtz