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PaulC
09-01-2008, 02:51 PM
Even if they're new. I neglected to do so and payed the price this weekend.

I was on my way up to the UP to hang out with my sister and two nieces. I didn't leave until late afternoon and was planning on a night cruise. About 220 miles into the trip my water temp gauge started fluctuating between 1/2 and 3/4. I pulled off the highway and found a gas station and started looking under the hood. I could smell coolant and found that the throttle plate to head hose clamps were loose. There was a 24hr car wash there so I pulled into a stall and removed the upper intake, tightened up the hoses, put the intake back on, jacked up the front left side and bled the system.

Got back on the road and everything was fine for about 45 min and then the gauge started rising again. There was a small bank drive-thru right off the exit so I pulled in. It was about 1:30 am so the place was deserted but the lights were on. Steam was rising from beneath the intake somewhere. I removed both the upper and lower intakes and found one of the heater core hoses was wet so I tightened up all the clamps and put it back together. Figured I had loosened something moving everything around the first time. Started it up to rebleed and realized that the heater core hose had a pin-sized hole I had missed.

All the hoses are 6 months old, but I had not retightened them since installing them. Won't make that mistake again. The hose had just collapsed, it had a 2 inch crease in it next to the hole. So I pulled the manifolds off again, removed the bad hose and bypassed the heater core with the other hose. Started it up and rebled the system. Luckily I was carrying tools and fluids. At that point I decided to turn around and head back to Chicago.

I spent about 4-5 hrs in the dark working on the M42. I'm guessing there was still air in the system after the first incident which contributed to the blown hose. That or it was one heck of a coincidence. Good part is that I can now pull apart and reassemble the intakes, throttle body and FI in about 20 min with my eyes closed. Bad part is I damaged the upper intake gasket and now its idling like crap.

Made it back to Chicago safely, but I'm pretty bummed. Learn from my mistake, CHECK YOUR HOSES!

Any comments, suggestions, criticism and flaming are welcome. Thanks for reading.

nickmpower
09-01-2008, 03:25 PM
good job keeping a close eye on the temp

quinn11m20
09-01-2008, 04:25 PM
Yeah I feel you brother. I used to stare at my coolant gauge a lot. Before I change the Service Interval board, my gauge would twitch. It made me constantly check my temp. Years ago I replaced the radiator after 225k. Well to make a long story short, the upper coolant hose bust on I-95 down here in Daytona. Pulled off to a gas station, NO COOLANT, what so ever!!! pumped it all out. I broke down. I thought that was it for my baby. I didn't know how far I had gone with no coolant. I truly believe it was my choice of oil that saved my engine. Castrol High Mileage 20W50. (Don't worry I wrote Castrol a letter and got free oil and a $100 gift certificate to a local parts store). Sweet Huh? My point is this, even though I replaced the radiator and hoses, I still check them weekly. Its a good thing you do to. Take care.

PaulC
09-01-2008, 07:03 PM
Thanks guys.

One other thing I noticed while digging in there is that a few of the vacuum hoses are already cracking. They're new as well, 6 mos old. I'll be deleting that whole mess next time around.

tjts1
09-01-2008, 09:02 PM
You're really lucky you kept an eye on that temp gauge. For me the main benefit of deleting the "mess under the intake" was to reduce the number of possible failure points. Good luck
Justin

PaulC
09-02-2008, 12:02 AM
Yeah, thanks Justin, your 'mess' thread has a lot of useful info. My main reason for keeping it stock and replacing all the hoses was because winters get pretty cold here, but the more I learn about this car the more I want to modify it. Driving a clean E30 in the salt doesn't appeal to me either.

Cobra Jet
09-11-2008, 03:46 PM
just curious about the hoses you were using, since you're saying that they have failed within 6 mos of installation -

Where they BMW hoses from the Dealer, or did you use or purchase hoses from an online vendor? If the hoses were not purchased from the BMW Dealer parts counter and you did buy them online, what brand or make of hoses are they?

I can't seem to grasp that brand new BMW hoses would start to fail within 6 mos (and how many driven miles)?

PaulC
09-12-2008, 10:32 PM
Yeah, I know. Not all of the vacuum hoses are cracking, but at least 2-3 are. Some of the hoses are not from BMW, some are. I honestly can't remember which ones. So there may be an aftermarket quality control issue there. I haven't taken it apart yet, so if I figure out which ones I'll LYK.

///m42 sport
09-20-2008, 02:44 AM
Hey Paul i'm interested also since I replaced all my hoses last month.

PaulC
09-20-2008, 01:38 PM
OK heres what I found so far.

Vent hose (#10) 11151717858 is beginning to split at the spaghetti/artery end. I'm not sure if this one is from BMW or not.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AJ93&mospid=47318&btnr=11_0264&hg=11&fg=15

Air hose (#11) 13411721971 is also beginning to split. I think this one is from BMW, but I'm not positive.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AJ93&mospid=47318&btnr=13_0307&hg=13&fg=15

The hose which ruptured was the water hose inlet (#2) 64211386690. This one was from CRP Industries. One thing to note is that it ruptured under the p/n label sticker... not sure if that has any real significance.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AJ93&mospid=47318&btnr=64_0133&hg=64&fg=18

Water hose (#11) 11531721846 is the one which came loose and was leaking initially. After tightening it twice the clamps were digging into the rubber enough that I would not feel comfortable using it again. Same goes for water hose (#13) 13541739235.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AJ93&mospid=47318&btnr=11_1272&hg=11&fg=35

The rest of the cooling system and vacuum hoses appear to look OK.