Denis (dude8383) is an UNGRATEFUL TRAITOR

[Febi Guibo]

Well, it all started saturday when Denis (dude8383) said he needed me to drive to (friggin) Stamford, CT to help him pick something up...

We got back to my house in Long Island with this:

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Note this is not a Ford Ranger M50 rear engine conversion project.... more pics:

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Anyway, Denis decided he wanted to get low mileage M50 for like, $750, including ALL the accessories, the ECU, *and* a GM automatic transmission/giant paperweight.

Meanwhile, because *I* am not an ungrateful traitor, I recently picked up a non-running 1991 318i (sedan) that will become... the Guibo family truckster. Mrs. Guibo has agreed to learn how to drive stick, and since it's a white car... I'm doing a roller job on it this spring...

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It's a nice car, not perfect, but for $700 (the armrest alone is worth $150) it means I can keep my cache of E30 parts and stay in the M42 game... whoever owned the car had some issue with the motor, and it was non running... otherwise it has a perfect non-sport interior, a 3.91 LSD and a couple of minor exterior dingys (dents, not rowboats)...

note, the muffler tip literally reads "The Fast and the Furious" or something...

So at the same time... I am glacially prepping a dome light restoration for the 1971 BMW 1600 I picked up:

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don't subject your F5 key to excess wear looking for progress on this very rusty 1600... it's going to take a long long time...

Anyway, so the first step was pulling the non-running M42 out of the 4-door... this will give me a chance to wash down the engine bay and deal with some minor issues.

For an ungrateful traitor, Denis was instrumental in yanking the M42 out.

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So, net net, big changes at the Guibo household... Long story short, I am basically trading cars with Denis, stuffing my Metric Mechanic engine (and as much E30 everything as I can) into the BMW 1600, putting denis' M42 into the white 318i... and... then parting out whatever odds and ends are left from Denis' old pink E30.

Denis will be stuffing a 1995 M50 into my Diamondschwartz E30 chassis.

A tough choice, but really, I need to focus on the 1600 (god willing, it will be a fairly balls-out, no-compromises build), and I need an M42 to drive in the interim.

Denis apparently feels that a 24-valve swap will help his online E30 cred or something... well, now's your big chance to let him know what a terrible mistake he's making! :)

[haledj]

What a bum.

the 1602 is gonna be hott, can't wait.

[FL318i]

thats is awesome!! not what dudes is doing but u febi, putting tha beast on the 1600 i cant wait to see that.

as far as dude's swap best of luck, i dont blame him for some torque/power craving after all who are we to say what anyone can or can not do to their car...

.....its been nice having you in the forum dude....(BANNEEEDD) lol.

[gearheadE30]

Dang, denis is going to need a new sig for the first time in about a hundred years ;). I really hope that the m50 is getting a stick, and that ranger would be pretty awesome with an m50 in the back and an andependant rear from a mustang cobra or something. Sounds like fun :)

[dude8383]

HAHAHA, very funny!!

Sam has come to terms with the m50 though :)

That M42 came out like butta, really happy with the progress thus far.

As for me, I need to source a tranny, driveshaft and some other odds and ends to get ready for the swap.

Gearhead, yes, I will be changing my sig just in time for the New Year!!!

I am thoroughly excited though, I can't wait to shoehorn that bad boy in there :)

[John W]

Man, you guys in NY are not afraid to get your hands dirty (or tackle multiple complicated projects at the same time!).

Looking at this makes me wistful, though. I had to make a concession for recently purchasing my 318is by selling my much loved 72 2002 a couple of weeks ago. That 1600 stuffed full of M42 should go a long way toward providing the best of both worlds. If you have not done so already, start picking Matt McGinn's (of Sports and GT Restorations in Conn.) brain about 02s. I don't think there is anyone else on the planet more knowledgeable about bodywork for these cars.

Keep this thread alive. I wanna see more M50, 1600 and 318i progress in the new year.

[tim_s]

woah, you've been busy! It'll be sad to pull that MM engine out of the black e30 :( Nonetheless, I'm sure this'll keep things interesting, and no doubt the black e30 will be (nearly) as cool with the M50 in it, and the 1600 fantastic with the MM engine in it.
24v e30s are pretty special, we get alloy block M52B28s over here which are pretty difficult to ignore :)
The white 4 dr looks cool, I like 4dr e30s!

[twinpop171]

Nice projects you guys have going on for the new year. Keep this thread alive with updates.

Glad to hear Mrs. Guibo is going to be an m42 driver.:D

Denis, how did you get your basketweaves to look like that. They look awesome BTW. Good luck with the swap too.
Dan.

[dude8383]

Thank you all for the comments!!

We will make sure to keep the thread updated whenever something new happens.

As for the basketweaves, they're 16 x 7.5 ACT's...I can't wait to see how they'll look on the dschwarz car!

[D. Clay]

As a side note, I have three daughters and a female niece that I taught how to drive with a standard trasnsmission. I was explaining the feel of the clutch was an intuitive thing and made the mistake of saying that the female was supposed to be the more intuitive of the sexes. I then said that, "Too bad a clutch isn't like hair, you would have been born knowing how to drive standard." To this day they still say that to me whenever I demonstrate something like a lack of fashion consciousness or the inability to pick up after myself.
"Yeah, Dad if hair was a clutch...."
Speaking of intuition, I think I know what a "domelight" restoration is. I had a 1971 Nissan 240Z restoration that went on so long that my wife began calling it "The alleged Z-car". Good luck with the organ transplants.

[dude8383]

As a side note, I have three daughters and a female niece that I taught how to drive with a standard trasnsmission. I was explaining the feel of the clutch was an intuitive thing and made the mistake of saying that the female was supposed to be the more intuitive of the sexes. I then said that, "Too bad a clutch isn't like hair, you would have been born knowing how to drive standard." To this day they still say that to me whenever I demonstrate something like a lack of fashion consciousness or the inability to pick up after myself.
"Yeah, Dad if hair was a clutch...."
Speaking of intuition, I think I know what a "domelight" restoration is. I had a 1971 Nissan 240Z restoration that went on so long that my wife began calling it "The alleged Z-car". Good luck with the organ transplants.


Hehe, well hopefully Sam's 02 won't turn into the "The alleged 02-car" :)

[jpod999]

So what's happening to Denis's's's's's's's red car?

[dude8383]

So what's happening to Denis's's's's's's's red car?

I will be parting out w/e isn't going into Sam's car.

I will compile a list of stuff that I have now so that I can recoup some of the cost of this swap.

[sheepdog]

I will be parting out w/e isn't going into Sam's car.

I will compile a list of stuff that I have now so that I can recoup some of the cost of this swap.

If only you lived closer.

[Febi Guibo]

we have a truck... denis will drive... you have beer and cheap cigarettes!

[sheepdog]

we have a truck... denis will drive... you have beer and cheap cigarettes!

Unfortunately, I cannot afford anything at the moment anyhow.

Thinking maybe sometime next year we should try and get a get together for M42club someplace between us.

[gearheadE30]

Sounds cool. I want to see this MM 1602 when it's done...

[SheldonJace]

Unfortunately, I cannot afford anything at the moment anyhow.

Thinking maybe sometime next year we should try and get a get together for M42club someplace between us.

I will be in on this!

I just need to get my hands on another e30 soon.

[dude8383]

I will be in on this!

I just need to get my hands on another e30 soon.

It will most likely be a shell...but let me know if you're interested :)

[dude8383]

Short update!

A lot of work has been done to the M50 :)

Sam has been busy cleaning up the engine bay of the white car...and sadly I don't have any "current" pics of it.

Here's a few from last weekend:

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And some pics of my motor!

Where it happens baby!!

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Tranny (guess which is one is which)

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On the stand:

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Valve Cover off:

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Block:

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Head off:

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Block:

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The coffin (auto tranny is in there and ready to go :) )

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[jajou318]

wtb updates. it's been like 15 days man

[dude8383]

wtb updates. it's been like 15 days man

haha

well sam and i have been rather busy over the weekends. i'm hoping to swing by this weekend though to get some more work done!

[teh Phil]

Any updates?? :)

[dude8383]

Short update dudes:

Took apart the block completely...didn't bother with the plastigage just yet because I'm getting some M52 bits instead :D

M52 crank, M52 rods, M52 pistons!! MOO POWA!!! Well torque...

Anyways, on to the pics:

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I was thinking about getting the block hot tanked...What is the approx cost for this?

[dude8383]

Small update:

Finally dropped of the block and M52 crank at the machine shop.

Bought this:

http://data.bmrparts.com/ads.asp?ad=AD81&type=8

i was going to get wiseco pistons but didn't like the idea of proprietary rings.

came out to $655 shipped!

Stay tuned :)

This thread is going to really start moving in a month or so.

[dude8383]

Block has been cleaned and honed :)

Going to have them redo the hone because the pistons are 84.480mm.

Stay tuned! Will have some more post worthy updates next weekend :)

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[dude8383]

Will have some more updates this weekend...

If Sam posts the pics up!!!!

The car should be ready in about 3 weeks :)

[nomad]

Please show the pics of the install, mounts etc. Interested.
Sweet build! Makes me want to read up more on some modern 6cyl power in the E30.

[dude8383]

Please show the pics of the install, mounts etc. Interested.
Sweet build! Makes me want to read up more on some modern 6cyl power in the E30.

Waiting for friggin Sam to post pics!

[dude8383]

So I picked up my head from the OTHER machine shop!

Had them do a 3 angle valve job and clean it up :)

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[nomad]

flippin work of art man.
I love how they have the cross hatch pattern cast in... just because they can.

[thumper3ld]

Looks like shit, i'll take the whole setup from you for 100 bucks. I'll even let you install it into my car just so that you can par take in the project. :D

When is sam gonna post up dem damn picks. Freaking slacker!!

[dude8383]

Looks like shit, i'll take the whole setup from you for 100 bucks. I'll even let you install it into my car just so that you can par take in the project. :D

When is sam gonna post up dem damn picks. Freaking slacker!!

haha very funny! you heard you say something about

"i'm never putting an inline 6 in my car..."

Yeh, Sam is super lazy...I've been talking to him all week on AIM but the bastard keeps forgetting! I'll try to get him to post pics up on Sunday.

Stay tuned..I'm picking up my block on Sunday :)

[Eurospec]

Very cool. Keep us updated!

[dude8383]

Very cool. Keep us updated!

Picked up the bottom end yesterday...looks oh so pretty.

Need to get some high temp paint (VHT) and start taping it up.

I brought the block home so I will get the chance to work on it daily!!!

I'll try to post up some pics tonight :D

[Jimmy Lewis]

I hope you don't ditch us here in M42 land with the 8 more valves. I'm going to use this "write-up" for when my little M42 decides kick the bucket. I'm ready for the transplantation to begin!

[dude8383]

More updates!!

Painting the block :)

First Coat:

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4th coat:

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[dude8383]

I hope you don't ditch us here in M42 land with the 8 more valves. I'm going to use this "write-up" for when my little M42 decides kick the bucket. I'm ready for the transplantation to begin!

Will most certainly hang around man...I have to, I moderate the Classifieds :)

I am so READY to transplant this bad boy..

Gotta wait till the weekend so the paint can settle!

[dude8383]

Got to work on the rods today.

Oiled them up and inserted rod bearings!

Waiting for block to cure :)

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[dude8383]

Pistons and rods now together:

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Rings installed:

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[hoevesruperd]

wow!

[dude8383]

wow!

I know...its just as amazing for me :)

M52 Crank is in :)

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[hoevesruperd]

wow! i can't feel my legs. my face is numb

[dude8383]

wow! i can't feel my legs. my face is numb

haha, dude thats how im going to feel when its done.

[swiss318is]

:eek::eek::eek::eek: hm... :D

[swiss318is]

do you have pics of the valve job??

[dude8383]

do you have pics of the valve job??

I can post up some pics of the head, I don't have any pics of them actually working on it! I work during the week and only have time to drop it off and come back to pick it up :(

[swiss318is]

what???you have a job?!?!:D
so, you dont have pics of the valve seats without the valves...:(

[dude8383]

what???you have a job?!?!:D
so, you dont have pics of the valve seats without the valves...:(

no sorry :(

i know, i'm crazy, who has a job these days?!

[sheepdog]

what???you have a job?!?!:D
so, you dont have pics of the valve seats without the valves...:(

It is just a standard 3 angle jobber.

[dude8383]

It is just a standard 3 angle jobber.

yeh standard stuff :)

[dude8383]

Picked up some S50 cams yesterday :)

No progress yet, I kinda sort fucked up...I haven't been using assembly lube so I'm tearing it down.

Luckily I have only just dropped in the crank, I have new main bolts coming as well :)

[nomad]

oops. You can't use any of that stuff now. You'd better send it to me so I can dispose of it properly.

[dude8383]

oops. You can't use any of that stuff now. You'd better send it to me so I can dispose of it properly.

haha i know its all garbage!

what a waste :(

hehe

[dude8383]

Well, we've started on the black car! Pulled the motor out today and took down the front end by dropping the subframe!

Here she is...sorry for crappy cell phone pic!

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Stay tuned, I will start work on the motor this week after my last test!

[shutter]

nice. Can't wait to see the results of both of your projects. I always loved that black car, one of my favorite E30's when Febi posted pics with that mean MM motor =) Keep the pics coming.

[ClodKing]

Did I read somewhere here that your using a chevy auto behind that motor??

700R4?
4L60E?
6L80E?
TH400?
TH350???? I need answers!!! hahaha.

Howcome an auto? Why not another standard??

I am sorry if I totally missread what I read, and this post is useless. I just read auto chevy tranny, and had to know what it was...

[dude8383]

You sir most certainly mis-read something.

I got SOLD the extremely heavy paper weight GM tranny that came attached to the M50 :)

I'm running the Getrag 250 from a 1993 E36 325i :)

I prefer to row my own gears!

Did I read somewhere here that your using a chevy auto behind that motor??

700R4?
4L60E?
6L80E?
TH400?
TH350???? I need answers!!! hahaha.

Howcome an auto? Why not another standard??

I am sorry if I totally missread what I read, and this post is useless. I just read auto chevy tranny, and had to know what it was...

[nomad]

dang, i want a black car....

[ClodKing]

I figured I read wrong....:rolleyes:

I wondered why anyone would want to go from standard to auto... hahaha.

[Choking Hazard]

I call shotgun when its ready.

[dude8383]

I call shotgun when its ready.

haha WHEN it is ready.

This is taking too long, I wish I could work on it everyday :(

[dude8383]

BIG update. I left my camera at Sam's last week so here are pictures from last week and yesterday!

Scroll Down for vid's :)


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Here are some vids of intial start up and a few more when its smoothed out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urorK7Gn3Kc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hen8q-ufes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBz0YVwUwPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IoToGzRQxA

[dude8383]

It begins:

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[318kid]

Why did Sam decide to put the s42 into the Weiss 4door, I thought it was going into the 1600??? Preston

P.S. Denis, Your Sig still hasn't changed.

[Frankie]

God dammit! I read this heading of this topic (Dude8383 is an ungrateful traitor) and I thought that I have been p*issed in the eye, since I just bought a steering joint from him. I thought this was somekind of ranting thread for him ;)

[batsbats]

haha, I like the emphatic "YEAH" at the end of the first clip.

Let's see some sexy in car pulls with that 2.1 :)

[e30guydownunder]

It seems to idle surprisingly smooth....i would have expected it to be fairly lumpy with the cams MM run?

Great work on nearly completing one swap......2 to go.....

[dude8383]

Why did Sam decide to put the s42 into the Weiss 4door, I thought it was going into the 1600??? Preston

P.S. Denis, Your Sig still hasn't changed.

Ok, first I want to say that this isn't an S42 motor!

If Sam ever log's in to check the thread, I think it goes something like this:

He's over the mod scene and wanted a 4-door commuter car, just a dead reliable sedan to get him around.

The motor in MY car will go into the 1600 and will most likely receive a supercharger!


God dammit! I read this heading of this topic (Dude8383 is an ungrateful traitor) and I thought that I have been p*issed in the eye, since I just bought a steering joint from him. I thought this was somekind of ranting thread for him ;)

Really? Are you sure it was me? I'm not quite sure I remember selling a steering joint! But if any of guys are curious I do have great feedback! I have a thread on R3V and here :)


haha, I like the emphatic "YEAH" at the end of the first clip.

Let's see some sexy in car pulls with that 2.1 :)

Yeh man, to be honest I was surprised it started on the first shot! The vacuum leak was the little hose of the left where the TPS switch is. Its funny because I reminded myself to hook it up before we started...obviously I forgot :)

The in-car stuff will come once the headlights go back on it and Sam gets plates and all other associated legal stuff out of the way.


It seems to idle surprisingly smooth....i would have expected it to be fairly lumpy with the cams MM run?

Great work on nearly completing one swap......2 to go.....

Yeh the idle used to be rather lumpy, a lot of it had to do with the M20 lightweight flywheel that MM installed.

We put the stock dual mass and stock clutch on before we swapped the motor into the white car.

After completing this swap, the next 2 will be a piece of cake. In fact, I already decided that the black car will receive the motor from the bottom because it was a PAIN IN THE ASS to drop the motor (the m42) in from the top.

[Febi Guibo]

wow my ass is getting big...

ok, the 1600 project is going to take a long long time to finish, I couldn't bear not having my engine in a car for over a year (let's face it, it's going to be at least a year for the 1600 to be close to needing an engine) and... with premium well over $4.00 in NY, I figured on setting the thing up to drive in traffic and putting in a 3.64 LSD to help with with gas. I might be able to get 35+ mpg on the highway.

In general, the white car is going to be all about maintenance v.s modding... it's still going to be a hell of a ride!

by the time we're done, we will have pretty much disassembled 3 E30s, and reassembled two. We have (esp the M42 E30) one of the easiest cars to work on of all time, methinks.

[dude8383]

wow my ass is getting big...

ok, the 1600 project is going to take a long long time to finish, I couldn't bear not having my engine in a car for over a year (let's face it, it's going to be at least a year for the 1600 to be close to needing an engine) and... with premium well over $4.00 in NY, I figured on setting the thing up to drive in traffic and putting in a 3.64 LSD to help with with gas. I might be able to get 35+ mpg on the highway.

In general, the white car is going to be all about maintenance v.s modding... it's still going to be a hell of a ride!

by the time we're done, we will have pretty much disassembled 3 E30s, and reassembled two. We have (esp the M42 E30) one of the easiest cars to work on of all time, methinks.

Finally!!

Jane and I might stop by for a bit today :)

[dude8383]

It's been a while!

School and work have been kicking my ass lately so I haven't had much time to work on the motor.

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[quinn11m20]

That is a beautiful motor. I hope it goes well for you. Do you know any one who did that with an M42, with all the pics? I would like to see how the oil pump and timing chain look after 100k. I am seriously think of chainging mine. I am hearing a metal chain rolling noise. Like there is a lot of slack. But the funny thing is my car runs reall well. I would appriciate any info. Thanks and good luck.

[dude8383]

That is a beautiful motor. I hope it goes well for you. Do you know any one who did that with an M42, with all the pics? I would like to see how the oil pump and timing chain look after 100k. I am seriously think of chainging mine. I am hearing a metal chain rolling noise. Like there is a lot of slack. But the funny thing is my car runs reall well. I would appriciate any info. Thanks and good luck.

That inline 4 is the famous MM motor! It was the first one =)

Febi Guibo is the owner of the white car.

We didn't pull anything apart on the MM motor because there was no reason to, the motor has less than 10k on it (i think).

[quinn11m20]

cool thanks.

[dude8383]

Finally had the chance to do some more work on the motor!!!

I should be done by next weekend.

I snapped a two of the three torx bolts that are up front on the head. One is still stuck in the timing case cover.

I snapped the one that goes through the chain guide and the one to the left of it (drivers side) :(

Gotta order them and get this shit done already!

Anyways, on to the pics:

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S50 Cams in!

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[Jimmy Lewis]

The progress seems to be coming along nicely. Sheesh, you are going to have a built motor right from the get go. But if you don't mind me asking, could you post a bit of the 318iS specific M50 swap info? I remember reading that you are going to be using your stock 240 getrag, are you using the stock e30 shift linkage? I've read the 24V swap thread over at r3v completely, but the M42 car specific info is kind of spread around. Also are you going to use the stock M42 rad and overflow? I know there have been many guys who have done the swap from their M42s but I haven't seen anything real specific. There is a thread concerning a guy who is swapping in a S52 but he doesn't really get into the details. It seems that all of the M20 guys say that the M50 isn't worth it and that the S50 is the only way to go, but to us, 50hp+ seems pretty worth it, haha. Keep up the good work man.

[dude8383]

Hey man!

I decided to use the Getrag 250 that comes with the E36 325i because I didn't want to run into any fitment issues. Had I know that the trannies were almost identical in size and shape I wouldn't have purchased the driveshaft and tranny...but everything from motor to drivetrain will be E36.

As for the radiator, I'm keeping my stock M42 unit because I've been told it is more than adequate for the job!

The M50 is worth it because its much cheaper and you can always get that power. Besides you can get the S50 cams and the other bolt-on stuff and you'll be making around the same power for less. I believe the M50 weighs a bit less as well...don't quote me on that though.

Personally, moving up from lets say 110 hp (tired m42) to about 220hp is going to be more than plentiful!

The progress seems to be coming along nicely. Sheesh, you are going to have a built motor right from the get go. But if you don't mind me asking, could you post a bit of the 318iS specific M50 swap info? I remember reading that you are going to be using your stock 240 getrag, are you using the stock e30 shift linkage? I've read the 24V swap thread over at r3v completely, but the M42 car specific info is kind of spread around. Also are you going to use the stock M42 rad and overflow? I know there have been many guys who have done the swap from their M42s but I haven't seen anything real specific. There is a thread concerning a guy who is swapping in a S52 but he doesn't really get into the details. It seems that all of the M20 guys say that the M50 isn't worth it and that the S50 is the only way to go, but to us, 50hp+ seems pretty worth it, haha. Keep up the good work man.

[gearheadE30]

Sounds like it's gonna be awesome! Why'd you guys put the dual mass back into the white car?

[tjts1]

I kept looking at the pic of the front of the engine trying to figure out why it looks different than mine. After a few minutes I realized I was looking at a 6 cylinder. DOH. I must be tired. Very tidy work. Keep the excellent pics coming.

[dude8383]

Sounds like it's gonna be awesome! Why'd you guys put the dual mass back into the white car?

Sam wanted a smoother idle...the MM flywheel had some clutch chatter and well Sam didn't want that in a solid DD.

I kept looking at the pic of the front of the engine trying to figure out why it looks different than mine. After a few minutes I realized I was looking at a 6 cylinder. DOH. I must be tired. Very tidy work. Keep the excellent pics coming.

Haha well the M50 is based on the M42 so I don't blame ya!

[dude8383]

Ah its been a while yet again :)

Its pretty much complete except for a few odds and ends. I need to get the valve cover bead blasted, I need to get some new bolts for mounting the accessories and some other shit I can't think of at the moment.


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Quite helpful in the build process:

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VANOS Unit in

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As she stands

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[dude8383]

Just one photo today:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2720799153_6aac551312_o.jpg

I promise to make some more progress this weekend :)

[Jimmy Lewis]

Looks great man, if you are as thorough installing the motor as you have been outlining the build process, I'm sure it will make for a great resource. Great stuff.

[dude8383]

thanks man.

i've had my ups and down with this thing, but i have most certainly been thorough :)

[dude8383]

Motor will be done by the end of the week, I'll try to throw up a pic or two tonight.

Here's some progress from the weekend. The black car is fully ready to accept the 24v!

I apologize for crappy cell phone pics in advance, I forgot to bring my cam with me.

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[dude8383]

Some updates!

I'm transporting motor tomorrow :)

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What does this hook up to?? The heater core?

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Can't figure out what goes here

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Let me know if anything looks outta place, its been a long day at work and I want to be 100% on this!

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[mkodama]

Man, that engine has a lot of similarities to an M42/M44.

I'm pretty sure that barbed outlet does go to the heather core like you suggested.

As for the loose connectors, I'm thinking knock sensors. If not, temperature sensors.

[dude8383]

Man, that engine has a lot of similarities to an M42/M44.

I'm pretty sure that barbed outlet does go to the heather core like you suggested.

As for the loose connectors, I'm thinking knock sensors. If not, temperature sensors.

LOTS of similarities indeed. Lots of improvements too :)

The loose connectors I know about, they're knock sensors. :D

I was wondering about bracket placement but got an answer on R3V.

[dude8383]

Lots of progress yesterday! I asked a friend of mine to come by and help out cause Sam was out of town.

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Front subframe complete, just have to attach left caliper. Koni shocks in :)

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Clutch and flywheel mounted.

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We had to build an odd contraption because thunderstorms were in the forecast. It was the best we could do with w/e wood we could find at the moment.

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Mating of tranny and motor

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Rolling engine underneath, literally had a cunt hair of clearance!

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Lined up

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And its in!!!!

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Thats all folks!

[e30guydownunder]

Top work denis.....so engine swap 2 is nearing completion :)

[batsbats]

Nicely done.

[dude8383]

Top work denis.....so engine swap 2 is nearing completion :)

indeed it is :) i hope to wire it up this weekend and start it up!

Nicely done.

thank you :D

i'm quite proud of myself to have gone this far.

[She loved E]

Nice work!!!!

Q: How many swaps/engine builds have you done before? You make it seem easy, but I have a feeling there's a lot more to it than just taking everything apart and putting it back together. :cool:

[dude8383]

Nice work!!!!

Q: How many swaps/engine builds have you done before? You make it seem easy, but I have a feeling there's a lot more to it than just taking everything apart and putting it back together. :cool:

haha well this would be my third swap but my first 24V swap.

[dude8383]

Some more progress for you guys.

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[Jimmy Lewis]

Raw. Looks great, progess is wonderful.

[dude8383]

EDIT: Including the specs on car


M50 Block
M52 Crank
M52 Rods
M52 Pistons
S50 Cams
M52 Exhaust Manifolds
Intake and Exhaust ported (every bit helps)


okay, so this thing won't bloody start...

i have fuel, i have current going to coil and definitely have vacuum.

i checked robertk's thread about the auto tranny switch (pin 65 on ecu) and provided a 12v current and still nothing.

i will attempt to pull the coil pack and actually plug the spark plug into it and then crank to see if spark plug is actually getting current.

it also has the EWS delete chip.

i am almost convinced it is the crank position sensor but haven't tested it yet.


here are two vid's of how it cranks:


http://www.youtube.com/v/-7dhzX4VI-4&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/19BHqB8IaCg&hl=en&fs=1


anyone have any ideas?

[kowalski]

i would have suggest both of the things you have planned.

[dude8383]

Started it today!!!!!

That dash of oil helped fire this thing up like nobody's business.

I'll have the video up shortly! It sounds pretty good to me, but I can barely tell cause this thing is so flippin loud.

It won't idle though so I need to look into why...me thinks it is the M44 318i MAF

Link to youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/v/YuhyX0rpE5o&hl=en&fs=1


On a side note we should add the youtube ***** feature...its freakin awesome.

[Jimmy Lewis]

That thing is going to roar. And your ACT Weaves look badass on the shwarz. I think I'm going to go the M52 route when my engine gives out, but not as built as your motor. Good stuff, I can't wait to see it all together and some in car vids.

[dude8383]

That thing is going to roar. And your ACT Weaves look badass on the shwarz. I think I'm going to go the M52 route when my engine gives out, but not as built as your motor. Good stuff, I can't wait to see it all together and some in car vids.

thanks man!

next weekend i should get the exhaust work done so that i can start driving it!

[tim_s]

me thinks you're right - get the m44 MAF off it! glad it's firing.

[dude8383]

me thinks you're right - get the m44 MAF off it! glad it's firing.

haha thanks man.

i picked up a maf on ebay. i hope it comes in before the weekend :)

[PaulC]

Nice work, man. Congrats.

[dude8383]

She's home finally :)

Pics and vid!

The signature stuff:

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Video of Sam driving:

http://picasaweb.google.com/d.oreshkin/1025#5261493708301841298