COP Conversion Brackets

[haledj]

I will be making a production run of BMWMAN91's COP conversion brackets.

I will be selling them for $70 plus actual shipping.

I need to guage interest on how many people are interested. I could be making the run of them this week so if you are wanting to buy one speak up.

more info on the COP brackets and related conversion go here:
http://www.m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=965

thanks,
doug

[DZick]

let me kick it around for a day or two i am very interested! I am in the process of fixing my timing chain and need some sparkplugs/wires and this would be awesome!

Ill get back to you...

[P. Kennedy]

Yep.

[BrandC]

Count me in. $70 plus shipping, not bad at all.

I just want to get that COP done so I can clean the wiring up.

[250k318is]

what car do you need to get coils out of to do this swap i want to search the junk yards for some used ones to get a price idea to see if i have the money to do this

[Wise Old Dog]

Does anyone have the exact part number of the coils needed to do this mod? I have seen where the E46 coils are needed, but I haven't seen it confirmed. When looking for parts, there's nothing like a part number. I am thinking about doing this mod, but I would want to use new coils, so price and availability are important in making the decision. Part number anyone?

[DZick]

Does anyone have the exact part number of the coils needed to do this mod? I have seen where the E46 coils are needed, but I haven't seen it confirmed. When looking for parts, there's nothing like a part number. I am thinking about doing this mod, but I would want to use new coils, so price and availability are important in making the decision. Part number anyone?

X2!

[haledj]

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BN53&mospid=47713&btnr=12_1051&hg=12&fg=05

that is the REALOEM link to the coils with the part numbers
they are from the e46 and they all appear to be the same.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearch/pel_search.cgi?please_wait=N&forumid=&threadid=&command=DWsearch&description=12131748018&I1.x=0&I1.y=0
here is pelican part's listing for the coils

high performance replacements are available as well through most BMW performance parts dealers


part number is 12131748018

[BrandC]

I just found the Bremi units on FAP99.com for $44.87 each. Cheapest I've found so far folks, BRAND NEW too.

[P. Kennedy]

I just found the Bremi units on FAP99.com for $44.87 each. Cheapest I've found so far folks, BRAND NEW too.

Outstanding! Thanks for the research.

[BrandC]

It'll be around $250 + shipping (combined) for 4 Bremi units and one COP bracket.

[haledj]

I bought 4 used coils for $60, as another option.

so that would be $130 plus shipping if you are ok with used parts.

I have seen the coils for as cheap as $10

[BrandC]

I bought 4 used coils for $60, as another option.

so that would be $130 plus shipping if you are ok with used parts.

I have seen the coils for as cheap as $10

I like this option better.

I will hunt around BFC for used coils, I can't imagine them being a wearing item.

[haledj]

check out e46 fanatics too thats where I found mine

[haledj]

I should have these done in a few days

[BrandC]

Let us know how you will be handling payment.

[haledj]

Payment will be done through paypal, If this is a problem then we can work something else out, but the part will not ship until I have money in hand.

[haledj]

I now have all the plates done.

I will get a shipping estimate tomorrow morning to the lower 48 states.

PM me if you want one with an address and I will send you my paypal info and a price.

[haledj]

Shipping is around $5 for ground

I have ordered all the hardware that will be required for installation and it should be in soon. If you want this stuff too, it will be an additional $7, but also a couple more days of waiting.

it will include:
8 M6X1 cap screws
2 60 mm M6X1 studs
4 M6X1 bolts
4 6mm washers

BTW I stopped by my local hardware store and just the cap screws would cost about $7 if you bought them individually, and they didn’t even have studs.


so for the totals, $75 for a plate shipped, and $82 for a plate plus all the hardware. Or if you would like, $12 for just the hardware.

I can ship out plates as soon as I get the money, so give me a PM!

[BrandC]

Sent you PM!

[haledj]

here are some pictures of the completed plates, if you would like pictures of something more specific, let me know



this is the hardware included in the installation pack
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/1.jpg

pictures of the plates
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/2.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/3.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/4.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/5.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/6.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/7.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/8.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/9.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/10.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~haledj/otherpages/COP/11.jpg

*note the plate that has the coils mounted on it has been polished and the ones that are being sold are not polished like the one that does not have coils mounted on it.
besides the finish they are identical

[BrandC]

fuckin' sweet.

[kowalski]

nice job on the VC

[cenotaph]

are you still able to fit the spark plug wire cover after this?

[haledj]

are you still able to fit the spark plug wire cover after this?

I havent tried but I can look later today

[1988E30M3]

I assume not, but will this mod post any problems for cars running a modified chip?
I will be installing a 93 octane Mark D chip in my 318is soon and would not want to discover any incompatibility between the chip and this mod.
Also, performance gains, if any?

TIA

[haledj]

this will work with any chip as the ECU sees no difference. I have no proof of increased power but people claim to notice better trottle respose and better idle. In short you will have a better spark and will never have to buy spark plug wires ever again.

[SheldonJace]

I just closed my small town bank account and am waiting to get back home to open up a new one with a nation wide bank so when that does happen I will most definitely be buying a bracket if there are any left.

[haledj]

are you still able to fit the spark plug wire cover after this?

There is no way to do it and have it still look good. You could use longer studs and put holes in the cover and mount it that way but I think that would look bad.

[vitesse]

Do you still have any of these in stock with the mounting hardware?? thanks

[P. Kennedy]

Anyone know if these coils will work, or is this too good to be true?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E46-X5-X3-Ignition-Coil-Original-Parts-NoReserve_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33689QQihZ015 QQitemZ250173642910QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[vitesse]

it doesnt look like those bolt down, so I would assume they wouldn't work. Those type push into the spark plug holes.

[BrandC]

Got mine in the mail yesterday, looks great.

[haledj]

bump, they are half gone!

[aaron31182]

Just got mine. Thanks!

[haledj]

Bump!

[sports.racer]

Check PM.

[jakeb]

Do you still have these?

[haledj]

yes, I do

[bmwman91]

Hey, those look good! What did you polish the top with?

[haledj]

Thanks, I wetsanded it with a random orbital, then finished it on a bench polisher.

[jakeb]

Do you know which plug goes to each coil?
I am swapping into a 2002 and not everything on the harness is labeled. Two of the leads are together and the other two are on their own.

does this make sense?

[jakeb]

Also what is the little leg on the one end for? That sticks out past the valve cover, near the firewall.

[D. Clay]

The valve cover is wider at the top than where the original cover fit. I have had a new cover on my do list for some time but have never gotten around to it. It would be easy to secure it to the COP plate. I was going to get black plastic (heat resistant) and make one and try some different logos, etc. Unfortunately, I've always had two or three things on my to do list ahead of it. If any one else does something nice I would be interested in one.

[haledj]

Also what is the little leg on the one end for? That sticks out past the valve cover, near the firewall.

It is to secure the wires leading to the coils, if you would like I can make one without.

[haledj]

Do you know which plug goes to each coil?
I am swapping into a 2002 and not everything on the harness is labeled. Two of the leads are together and the other two are on their own.

does this make sense?

It does but I do not know how to help you, I had to trial/error mine.
There are 24 different possible combinations:confused:

[haledj]

The valve cover is wider at the top than where the original cover fit. I have had a new cover on my do list for some time but have never gotten around to it. It would be easy to secure it to the COP plate. I was going to get black plastic (heat resistant) and make one and try some different logos, etc. Unfortunately, I've always had two or three things on my to do list ahead of it. If any one else does something nice I would be interested in one.

I might be making something... We'll see.

[jakeb]

It does but I do not know how to help you, I had to trial/error mine.
There are 24 different possible combinations:confused:

haha so you just plugged them in and started swapping until it ran right?

Maybe I will pull the wires on my stock e30 318is and see which is which.

jake

[haledj]

haha so you just plugged them in and started swapping until it ran right?

Maybe I will pull the wires on my stock e30 318is and see which is which.

jake

Yeah something along those lines, I had it narrowed down somehow. I had labeled them but I did something wrong, so guess and check it was.

[bmwman91]

Bah, lucky man having a bench grinder/polisher.

[haledj]

Bah, lucky man having a bench grinder/polisher.

yeah, its alright. We have a couple different bench grinders and a bench polisher with two different stiffness of polishers. Sometimes I just polish things because I'm bored. /super arrogant sarcasm

[sports.racer]

Got my bracket thanks.

One question, is the seal for the hold down bolts not being used for this? I take it no leaks are happening without that seal?

Items 8 and 9.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AF93&mospid=47305&btnr=11_0264&hg=11&fg=15

[haledj]

Got my bracket thanks.

One question, is the seal for the hold down bolts not being used for this? I take it no leaks are happening without that seal?

Items 8 and 9.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AF93&mospid=47305&btnr=11_0264&hg=11&fg=15

I cut those bolts in half to get the seal and washer off and am using them on the stud.

[BrandC]

So from what I understand, S52/M54 coilpacks are plentiful and hook right up to the resistor connector?

[haledj]

So from what I understand, S52/M54 coilpacks are plentiful and hook right up to the resistor connector?

I used the m54 coils, I do not know about the S52 ones (are they the same?)

And yes, plentiful they are. (They hook up too!)

[P. Kennedy]

Well...I am having a heck of a time finding reasonably priced coils for my COP conversion. $50 / coil isn't terribly economical when a decent set of wires can be had for $85. Turner does not have the correct ones. I'm HOPING for something around $25 / coil, and I'm not giving up yet. If someone happens upon a deal, let me know and I will be eternally grateful.

[haledj]

I used used coils I found on e46 fanatics, they often replace perfectly good coils with "High performance coils," so I have found that the supply exceeds the demand for the used coils. I got mine for $10 each with 15K miles on them.

[P. Kennedy]

I camp out on e46 Fanatics almost every night, searching high and low. Haven't gotten lucky yet.

[haledj]

Did you post a wanted thread? I had a lot of luck with that.

[rfritz]

So with these you don't have to cut the harness? I already started to disect mine.....:mad:

I used the m54 coils, I do not know about the S52 ones (are they the same?)

And yes, plentiful they are. (They hook up too!)

[rfritz]

BTW - Thanks for bringing the bracket by, I will send everything today.

[haledj]

So with these you don't have to cut the harness? I already started to disect mine.....:mad:

You do not have too, but doing so will make a much cleaner install. BMWman91 did a very good job writing up the process on his website (http://www.e30tuner.com), I would check that out.

BTW - Thanks for bringing the bracket by, I will send everything today.

No problem, it is always good to meet fellow e30'ers especially m42 people, and your car is beatiful.

[haledj]

I just made several more, ready to ship out.

Now accepting interesting trades!:D

[Simon S]

I wish to order a bracket and hardware.

pm sent. (also through r3vlimited)

[haledj]

Bump

[TheNeek]

removed... wasn't the right thread to post this in.

[haledj]

removed... wasn't the right thread to post this in.

A few of the holes there are in different places than I use. Most notably, the one in the upper right corner, and the mounting holes and the big holes are not inline.

[haledj]

I have a new batch done hot and fresh off the mill

***St. Patrick's day Special!!***

If you order a plate between now and the 17th I will include the hardware for free ($7 value).
That is $75 for the plate and the hardware shipped

[haledj]

neat link explaining Coil on Plug ignition (http://www.aa1car.com/library/copign.htm)

[D. Clay]

Cheap coils. FCPGroton sells them on ebay for $25 each in lots of 6, 8, and 12. There are several BMW part numbers that will work. M54 is 12131748018. Maybe some folks could go together and buy 8 or 12 and split them up.

[haledj]

Cheap coils. FCPGroton sells them on ebay for $25 each in lots of 6, 8, and 12. There are several BMW part numbers that will work. M54 is 12131748018. Maybe some folks could go together and buy 8 or 12 and split them up.

good find

:D:D

[Asserti]

Got some questions:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-M54-N62-Ignition-Coils-Brand-New-OEM-E39-E46-E60_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33689QQihZ003QQitem Z130204468865QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Will these work?
And what about the bosch connector disassembly, why is that needed and is it still needed with these coils? Is it necessary to lengthen the electronic wires, leading to the connectors?

thx!

[haledj]

No, those are not the coils you want. The coils you want have mounting holes on two arms that extend from the coil, like in the pictures I posted. You do not need to disassemble the connectors, but it is the best way to shorten the wires. The wires do not need to be shortened, but it makes for a cleaner installation.

[agreen]

i know it has been a little while but are these still avalable? ? ?

will you shipa full set to the uk including all the bits and pices ?

thanks arron

[ApocolypseAutoEngineering]

Yes indeed this would make and addition to my light mods nice.

[Trusted-1]

When is the next production run for the bracket and hardware kits?

I had an oil leak in the number 2 "hole" and oils soaked the plug wire and instead of new plug wires and such, might as well convert.

The shorted plug almost ruined a good day of auto crossing but fortunately we took along the M3 just in case we broke the track car.

Thanks, Steve

[haledj]

I have more ready to ship, send me a PM if you are ready to buy, or post here if you have any questions.

I will ship to the UK, and I'll check on a price ASAP

[Trusted-1]

Did I see a post that there was a choice of finish, polished or brushed?

Thanks, Steve

[haledj]

Yes, for an extra $10 I will polish or brush the plates. This will likely delay the shipping one business day, as I do not keep the polished brushed ones on hand.

[hoevesruperd]

so to make sure i understand right:
any M54 coils will work, i do not need to modify the harness and its just a matter of finding which connector goes to which coil ?
i've been experiencing some sporadic misfires / very rough idle that i believe is a spark issue... time for a COP conversion i guess!
i've sent you a PM
thanks

[haledj]

the stock coils are marked (1,2,3,4) so it is really straightforward, PM replied

[nc_bboy]

I post this in the other COP thread but i think i'll post it in here just incase no one sees it in the other thread.

Will the COP bracket and the M54 coils work for the E36 M42? I didn't see anyone with an E36 saying anything yet (unless i missed it) Because I've been trying to find some cheap coils because the car hasn't moved for a year just because the coils died lol (and now I'm ready to drive her again) If they do will because I'll be sure to get them this Thursday.
Edit: Also if they do fit you'll just have to drill where the holes are at to be able to screw in the hardware that comes with the bracket? (just making sure)

[haledj]

PM's replied to

Yes, it will work on the e36, and you do not have to drill anything

[mkodama]

I'm gonna be interested in a COP bracket kit in the next few weeks.

Would it be the same price if I requested one without the arm for the cables to zip tie to? If so, what would the cost be for a bracket, mounting hardware, and shipping to 94705?

Also, for anyone who needs M54 coils, KO Performance (http://www.koperformance.com/online_ordering/make_n_model_search_catalog4.php?make_select=BMW&year_select=2001&model_select=E46325|||65682ead6911636e09d6d79dfe62 2d19&model_select_text=325i%20%28E46%20chassis%29&3flag=Y&group_id=I2&group_text=Ignition,%20Alternator,%20Starter&group_log=3660131&cat_select=8536&cat_text=Coil%20-%20Ignition&cat_log=3562119) carries them for $22.67 new. If you order an oil filter and some oil from them at the same time, the order will probably be big enough to qualify for free shipping too.

[haledj]

Yes I can make one without the arm for the same price, $82 shipped for everything.

[SnPaC]

would these be the correct ones?

http://www.fap99.com/item.wws?sku=BMW046872&itempk=3036&mfr=Bremi&weight=0.88&cookieID=2DR1DJEJU2DR1EGIPR&clientid=fap99

[mkodama]

would these be the correct ones?

http://www.fap99.com/item.wws?sku=BMW046872&itempk=3036&mfr=Bremi&weight=0.88&cookieID=2DR1DJEJU2DR1EGIPR&clientid=fap99

Why would you buy them for $52.06?

Go to www.koperformance.com and find the spark coils for a 2001 BMW 330i, they are only $22.26 there.

[SnPaC]

Why would you buy them for $52.06?

Go to www.koperformance.com and find the spark coils for a 2001 BMW 330i, they are only $22.26 there.

Thanks for the tip; the picture that comes up does not look like the right coil... any thoughts?

[mkodama]

Thanks for the tip; the picture that comes up does not look like the right coil... any thoughts?

Damn, you are right. Guess it's a little bit of a glitch with KO performance since they really should not show up for a 2001 330i. It appears that cars produced after 08/2002 use different coils than what is commonly used for the COP conversion. The newer coils do not appear to have the mounting holes.

The correct coils are a little over $48. Sorry for the false information. On the positive side, 4 coils for $48 from KO Performance would probably get your free shipping.