Open the club for E36 owners!

[MixiM]

Hello, well since this is the M42 club i was happy cause it was exactly the kind of forum i seeked for my E36 318is... But the problem with the page is that it seems to be very biased towards E30, or almost entierly :P

So could you guys maybe flick in a E36 image and scare less E36 owners away.. I think this would be a terrific place where E30/E36 owners meet and share there engine-knowledge ... crossing the barrier of models...

Hehe got a bit poetic, but you get the point!

[RED IS 91]

I vote yes but it seems to me that there are alot of electronic differences (engine management )between an E30 and an E36 not to mention the differences in body .
Am I right ??? If I am then it might get confusing when we're trying to diagnose engine malfunctions.The E30 M42 is an exclusive club(a rare breed) .
Hmmmmm ---- Can I change my Vote Now to NO !!!:confused:
Hell ,I wouldn't mind having a 318I E36 .
Good thing I'm not in charge :eek:

[m42 fan]

hmmm... Voted no. Too many differences. Plus, there is already tons of support for e36 m42 folks out there. JMHO

Brian

[doucy2]

I also voted no, we are a buncha stoubron ole' krauts here. this is a "cult" and you have to own a e30 m42 to be part of it. the feeling of warmness and understanding that we all own the same car is special to us (speaking for group as a whole.) There is pleanty of good support out there for the e36's like on BF.

Thats just my opinion, lets hear what the rest have to say.
Ohh yea nothing against e36's if the right deal came around I'de still get one, but still would love my e30 100x more :)

[ClubSport]

We're already here! We have too much in common to be haggling over body styles. Plus the M42 is possibly even more rare in an E36 chassis than in an E30 - there's not much other help out there for us.

[bmwman91]

Well, there are a few E36 guys in here already. We are not going out of our way to prevent E36 people...yet. If it becomes a copy of BFc (at times) with teenage nonsense or behavior similar to the infamous Jordan, then measures will be taken.

A big E36 M42 club was actually started just before the E30 one. I got the idea from them doing it actually, and some good folks here got us our own site and whatnot. The E36 M42 does have numerous differences, but knowledge is always welcome. If you cannot find what you need in the E36 club, you can always look here. We just do not want this turning into an E36 club since there were countless more E36's with M42's. This club was sorta intentionally set up to provide a community for the rarest non-M E30 ever produced (excluding crazy Alpina build & whatnot).

So, in brief:
...no. We will see how things go as time passes, maybe an E36 sister-site could get worked out someday.

[FL318is]

I have 3 BMWs and one part time job. When I need info or help I seek out those sites specific to make and model. Seems that these various clubs by default garner a larger knowledge base.

As far as forum "teenage nonsense or behavior," been there done that. I had a site once and shut it down completely because it became a baby sitting nightmare. And get this, it wasn't the "teenagers."

In short, I like the E30 aspect and the car oriented mentality here. Without a doubt, this is the best site you could ever find. I support a separate sister E36 site and keep this one for E30s. That being said I would welcome any BMW owner that needs help or want to contribute to do so here. I am by no means suggesting a boycott of E36 owners. I have one.

[tim_s]

i voted yes. same or similar engine; this is m42 club, not e30 m42 club after all. I think it would not do any harm to see some talk of the later engines, as they have some interesting changes etc, and ultimately, why the hell not? and come on, the e30 isn't that special guys!

[D. Clay]

This is a problem? Hopefully, they are storming the barricades trying to get in.

[bmwman91]

Not a problem at all so far. E36 folks are free to join and share in the knowledge. For now though no separate E36 section is needed, if anyone was asking for that. By all means, contribute. I am not sure what happened to the E36 club anyway lol.

[sepehr]

I voted yes.
Maybe there could be shared engine/driveline section, and seperate everything-else sections, to prevent confusion or an overwhelming number of e36 posts?

[kowalski]

I voted yes, again M42 club not e36 or e30. personaly i like the e30 body much more, but an m42 is an m42, the newer ones are just a little more advanced. Plus there is already e36 dudes around here, no need to specifically orientate the site towards them as stated before, sites like bimmerforums exists, while there is nothing for the e30 m42 except this site.

[Febi Guibo]

I voted yes...

anything to boost female membership.

KIDDING! joking, kidding!

Hey, our E30 numbers are limited... we're going to need their cars for parts soon...

KIDDING! joking.... you get the idea.... :)

[kowalski]

I voted yes...

anything to boost female membership.

KIDDING! joking, kidding!

Hey, our E30 numbers are limited... we're going to need their cars for parts soon...

KIDDING! joking.... you get the idea.... :)

your only half kidding.

[sheepdog]

We have never done anything to discourage it, and I think it would be in bad taste to not allow them. We only specialize in teh e30, nothing saying no one else can join.

Keeping people out only leads to an elitist attitude on a site.

By the way, we have at least two e36 members (three I think) and two 325 members as well. We have good information beneficial to both groups and they have info for us. Remember your car is a sort of cross between the two.

[m44power]

im an e36 guy i love e30 too i think its "a man's car" (i dont like e46 its only for the ladys) and i tell you that! i tired listen about m3's allright is good is fast but (there are all the same) its not diferent with potentials (like S42/44) what why i am a m42/44 lover and i need a place to share my knowlege with people like me and stop hear about 6cyl like other clubs/forums (like bfc etc..) i dont care if this club is officialy e30 and e36 club we have fun with our little but powerfull engines .

I think e30 and e36 its like brothers different person but same blood (M4x + blood :D )

i vote YES

[Rev0lutioN]

I have to admit I came here not realizing it was pretty much an E30 club....but it's a good site and another place for me to learn from the veteran m42 heads...I voted yes although I can understand the reasons for members wanting the club to remain E30 M42....I'd also vote yes for a sister site. On another note....what's up with the TI getting it's own area in the E36 bit of BF.C?! Ahh well I won't hate.

[Donkeyshins]

+1 vote for adding an E36 section (or a sister site). Let's face it, we M42 owners need to stick together (we'll even throw a bone to the M44 owners, even though they use a cast crank) against the tyranny of the M20, M30, M50/2, S50/2 and S14 owners out there.

Do I get points for having owned two E30s in the past (before kids required a larger 4-door vehicle)?

-D

p.s. Don't forget that without E36 M42/44 cars out there (including the Z3), there wouldn't be a Downing Atlanta Supercharger option for the E30 318i/is as the model run is too small to have made it economically feasible... :D

[gearheadE30]

I voted no only because of all the differences between the two models and for my experience on BF. Don't get me wrong, BF is great, but the combination of many people trying to help people with many different cars seems to lead to a lot of confusion and people saying things that aren't true and sometimes not even logical. Also, there seem to be far more closed-minded flamers over there....

Here, we all have a common car and a great knowledge base without all of the kicking and screaming

ok, tirade over ;)

[RED IS 91]

I voted no only because of all the differences between the two models and for my experience on BF. Don't get me wrong, BF is great, but the combination of many people trying to help people with many different cars seems to lead to a lot of confusion and people saying things that aren't true and sometimes not even logical. Also, there seem to be far more closed-minded flamers over there....

Here, we all have a common car and a great knowledge base without all of the kicking and screaming

ok, tirade over ;)
I love it over there when someone with a M42 ask about crappy running and the first response is always check you cap and rotor .
I crack up every time

[Master]

I didn't realize that there where so many e36 haters here…
Guess I will have to walk away (walks away)

[gearheadE30]

I don't think that too many of us "hate" the e36, I think that there is already a lot of e36 info out there. I also think it is great that there are e36 people here, but it can be confusing with all of the differences between the two cars. I think a sister site is a great idea, though.

[Abrax]

I would say that it should be half on half for e30 and e36 owners... It is M42CLUB - not only E30M42CLUB...

[Royalratch]

i voted yes. same or similar engine; this is m42 club, not e30 m42 club after all. I think it would not do any harm to see some talk of the later engines, as they have some interesting changes etc, and ultimately, why the hell not? and come on, the e30 isn't that special guys!

It's true, this is M42 Club but I still voted no. They have loads of their own support and I like asking questions knowing they will be answered in the context of an E30.

To nip off-topic for a bit, the E30 is way more special than any E36 - across the whole range. Cabrio, M3 and Touring they're all better model for model.

[john318isau]

I have owned two E30 318is's and I just bought an E36 318is.

Is there solution where we could have a separate sub-forum for E36-specific questions only?

[Abrax]

I still have nothing to E36 owners... For me it doesn't depend on which model You have, it's all about Your interest in M42!!! I have E30, I would like to have knock detection in my engine, but I don't have it :-) M42 mounted in E36 is the better one... But I still like E30 far more.

I have a question to all people who voted "no" - If I will change my car to E36 - should I walk away because of it?

[sheepdog]

The club has already been opened to e36 members, has been for a while.

We also have some 325 members.
We have lots of info that applies to both cars, and there is not only no reason to exclude them, but it only makes for people developing an elitist attitude.

[volsBMWfan]

I vote yes.......... let us not forgot that one day we need a transplant from a late model e36, the shared knowledge may come in handy. know i had to do this after i did the same thing to my m42 that sheepdog did.

[cenotaph]

I might be getting an M42 E36, because it will be easier to find one.

The only problem is: searching E36 with this forum software yields no results although there are many posts that mention it. I try Google searching site:m42club.com for " E36" but every page is returned as it doesn't recognize the space and E36 is in all pages due to the header.

This site is a great community and resource for all M42 folk.

[velomech]

awww hell. Im own a 92 e36, and I always thought it was about 50/50.

Now I see that Im not wanted, and have a less respected vehicle. You probably think I should sell it and go backwards to buy a older less reliable, slower e30, you bunch of curmudgeons.

Thats It, Im out outta here!

Just kidding. I vote yes, but dont care either way. There may be differences, but I think we all get the gist of it. A lot of general advice and knowledge does transfer from the e30 to the e36...Anyhoo, either way it goes, Im her eto stay due to the knowledge base and lack of ricer boys.


Cheers and beers
Hodge

[e30 4cyl]

I would also say yes. E36 m42 owners share the same interests as e30 m42 owners. And the more people here the more knowledge available, right?