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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2007, 10:00:44 PM »
Quote from: nickmpower;22130
if using the m47 crank you dont need their 360 oiling bearings. The m47 crank also comes with a 360 degree thrust bearing

It is more than just the main bearings.
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2007, 10:25:35 PM »
what else then? a crank scraper?

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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2007, 03:37:49 PM »
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what else then? a crank scraper?

More than that. Read that article.
Jim at Metric put a lot of work into Febi's motor to make sure it survives. Not all he does is listed in the article, while most is, not all of it is there. He gave me a full tour of everything. It was a lot. Jim does not even get into all of the trial and error they went though in making that motor work. In other words, even a pro could not just slap it together and have it all work out.
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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2007, 10:28:33 PM »
whats the verdict?

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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2007, 10:03:27 AM »
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whats the verdict?


yea i'm interested ~bump~
somewhat of a teaser...

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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2007, 09:35:48 AM »
so does anybody have the part numbers for the vw hydraulic lifters? im hoing there not as expensive as metric mechanics at 30$ a pop.

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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2007, 03:37:23 AM »
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anybody know if german cars ever used roller lifters?  those might work better than solid lifters...


Doesn't the M44 use roller rockers?
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« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2007, 03:56:58 AM »
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so does anybody have the part numbers for the vw hydraulic lifters? im hoing there not as expensive as metric mechanics at 30$ a pop.


The number I got from VW board for 48 gr lifters is:

050 109309H or HBR (I think H and HBR are places where they are produced, HBR is brazil)

DBilas also lists same hydro lifters for VW and BMW applications so they should be interchangeable between those marques.

From the board I found this out, the guy selling these lifters asked 10$ / new lifter. From official VW/Audi/Seat dealerships it is higher no doubt.

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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2008, 11:08:56 AM »
Are all the weights, for the hydraulic lifters, before or after they are filled with oil?

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2008, 11:42:58 AM »
so we're talking about swapping theses (vw lifters) in order to raise the revlimit but is there benefits from such a mod in lower rpm? drivability wise?
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2008, 02:09:05 PM »
Makes me wonder if I can replace the M50 lifters that I have now with M52 lifters...because I'm building an M50 stroker and I'm interested in loosing some mass.


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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2008, 10:15:51 PM »
I copied this from a post here and saved it as a text file - with apologies and/or credit as they may prefer:
"2000 VW Golf.The part number is 050 109 309 xx I am pretty sure this is the part number. The important part is the first three numbers be 050 and not 034.
I bought my lifter from James West at Four Seasons tunning in California. He was great to deal with even though I got the wrong wones from him but he took them back and resolved the issue with his supplier and was very quick in getting me my correct lifters. You can call him at 714-997-5842."

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« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2008, 03:48:47 AM »
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Are all the weights, for the hydraulic lifters, before or after they are filled with oil?


I think they are without oil, I measured empty stock E36 M42 lifter and the weight was close to what was indicated in ETK. Oil can add some 10-20 grams to total mass.

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« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2008, 04:56:35 AM »
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« Last Edit: April 03, 2008, 05:12:47 AM by romkasponka »
E30 318is M42
E36 318is M44

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« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2008, 07:18:23 AM »
Quote from: D. Clay;46000
I copied this from a post here and saved it as a text file - with apologies and/or credit as they may prefer:
"2000 VW Golf.The part number is 050 109 309 xx I am pretty sure this is the part number. The important part is the first three numbers be 050 and not 034.
I bought my lifter from James West at Four Seasons tunning in California. He was great to deal with even though I got the wrong wones from him but he took them back and resolved the issue with his supplier and was very quick in getting me my correct lifters. You can call him at 714-997-5842."

Thats an awesome bit of info. Im hoping to change my timing chain soon allong with lifters and need as much info as possible. Im actually going to send him an email about them (me being in australia and all).

I got that part number and checked it by a mate that works at vw and he said $500 AUD for 16 lifters. How much did you pay from four seasons tuning?
Also what engine are these lifters from? Wiki lists 8 different 4 cyl engines VW used for the Mk4 golf.
Thanks.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2008, 07:21:28 AM by Ruger »