Author Topic: MikeDE's M42-Touring project...UPDATE Sept.24-Susp/Brakes.... (Read 32287 times)

Gerta318is · « **Reply #45 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:49:35 PM »

Isnt everyone in Europe a smoker? I love the plaid as well ... I settled for houndstooth. I had to order 3 yards from the Fatherland to go on the E21 recaros I'm replacing my sportseats with. If I was in Germany I'd give you a hand. I also bought a pressure bleeder from Pelican that works really well ... so we will see if that works!

MikeDE · « **Reply #46 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:18:33 PM »

Got the front lines installed this morning, and my neighbor helped me bleed them this evening. As I finished bolting the wheels on it started raining, so no pics. My neighbor's a motorcycle fanatic and French but I don't hold that against him, hahahaha. He had an '02 Roundie back in the day but living in Northern France it rusted out from underneath him, so he sold it. Last night, I just helped him unload a ride-on type motorcycle lift. That SOB weighs 150kg, or 330lbs. It's 30yrs old, AME I think, and still works great.

BTW, his neighbor owns the Ferienwohnung, 'Holiday Apartment', next to his that has a big garage. He's gonna ask if it's available for rent.......sweet.

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Isnt everyone in Europe a smoker?

Many are but this one had a layer of old ash on everything in the interior. They weren't very tidy.

MikeDE · « **Reply #47 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:00:15 PM »

Last weekend I did some long overdue suspension & brake work. I installed the following:

Lemforder LCA's
E30 M3 LCAB's
Front and rear swaybar bushings(PITA)
Rear swaybar endlinks

Bilstein Sports
KW 40/40 springs

And for the brakes:

Massive street kit w/ Meyle blanks(from 2002maniac)
Goodridge SS lines

The rear (4) lines were installed already when I reseated the subframe bushings, I installed the front (2) a few weeks ago b/c I had some free time.

I didn't stop to take any pics because time was short and it kills my momentum when I stop to do so.

Here it is all finished up:

And behind the Euroweaves:

These pics were actually taken a few days afterwards. I test drove it Saturday evening after I bled the brakes and tweaked the front toe.
All was well with no odd noises....fast forward to Thursday AM. I rolled out of my parking spot to hear a noise that coincided with road-speed only. i stopped at the gas station and took a quick look underrneath to make sure it was nothing obvious and proceeded cautiously to and from work that day.

I took the wheels off after work and found this:

AND the other side:

The edge of the caliper, why only after 4 days I have no idea, was just knicking the weights:

It's barely visible in the pics(I think my 10D is beginning to shit the bed, either that or the lens if hammered) but you may be able to see the marks on the outer edge of the caliper next to the bolt.

I ground the weights down a bit and it seems to be ok. When I mount my fresh summers next spring, I will put the weights a bit further in on the wheel.

Here is a quick pic of the 'stance' after the Billy/KW's:

And I found a nice MT2 in the Junkyard a few days before:

The leather feels brand new and gives the old ho' a whole new feeling.

And a few pics of the engine bay after some cleaning:

On the way from Bimmerworld are my Spal 16" puller and E30 radio delete panel. I will be relocating my radio, and using a 316i HVAC/radio delete panel to mount an oil pressure & temp guages, and possibly water temp.

I plan to use an 80/88c switch but not the low/hi speed configuration. Rather I will be running the 80c trigger in the summertime and the 88c trigger in the wintertime, both on HI speed.

Till next time......

Gerta318is · « **Reply #48 on:** September 18, 2011, 01:19:39 AM »

Looking good Mike! I love the stance and the BBK looks tits!

Donkeyshins · « **Reply #49 on:** September 19, 2011, 03:11:02 PM »

So how long until you cave and buy a Metric Mechanic 2.1 Rally motor?

-D

p.s. Fantastic work, BTW. I wish I had the skill and the time to do that sort of restoration to my daily driver 318iS.

MikeDE · « **Reply #50 on:** September 19, 2011, 04:42:44 PM »

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So how long until you cave and buy a Metric Mechanic 2.1 Rally motor?

-D

p.s. Fantastic work, BTW. I wish I had the skill and the time to do that sort of restoration to my daily driver 318iS.

MM 2.1....not until I come into alot of loot...and anyway, I am (passively) looking for an E28 for my next project.

BTW I did this in the mornings, for the most part, when I work late-shift.

The week before the swap, my wife took the kids on vacation so I worked whenever I had the energy.

And I took a week vacation to do the swap-activities.

PeabnutBubber · « **Reply #51 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:14:55 PM »

I just finished reading through this wonderful build- great work! I am super jealous of the touring. I would choose that over any other 318. I have a question though if you don't mind. I just found out my idler sprocket fell off of my timing case, taking part of the timing case with it. I want to switch out the M42 case with the nice and updated M44 timing case and lower deflection rail.

To do this, what needs to come off? So far all the timing covers are off and the A/C is removed. I am a little confused from the pictures about what is the minimum that needs to be taken off to switch those things out. My engine is still in the car and I may not be able to pull it out so easily. (Anything is possible if you believe though, right? :cool:) Anybody?

bwawuz02 · « **Reply #52 on:** December 20, 2011, 01:31:40 PM »

Mike's touring is very nice, saw it in person a few weeks ago. Hoping to own one someday myself, I would most likely just swap in an M/S50 and keep it as a daily. The M42 is my tinkering vehicle.

MikeDE · « **Reply #53 on:** January 01, 2012, 06:18:48 AM »

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I just finished reading through this wonderful build- great work! I am super jealous of the touring. I would choose that over any other 318. I have a question though if you don't mind. I just found out my idler sprocket fell off of my timing case, taking part of the timing case with it. I want to switch out the M42 case with the nice and updated M44 timing case and lower deflection rail.

To do this, what needs to come off? So far all the timing covers are off and the A/C is removed. I am a little confused from the pictures about what is the minimum that needs to be taken off to switch those things out. My engine is still in the car and I may not be able to pull it out so easily. (Anything is possible if you believe though, right? :cool:) Anybody?

The oil filter housing has to come off of the m42 housing if you'll be swapping it over. Oil pans have to come off to, use rtv and loctite blue on the bolts upon reinstallation.

The M42 timing case must also be removed, after removing all other components attched to it. Timing chain must also come off.

Install a new oil pressure relief valve with the updated version if it's not already done. A new tensioner is also a must. And do a general check while everything is out. I still have a brand new M44 oil pump &if you need it, pm me. I also have a bunch of used excellent condition chain guides that I took off and replaced with new ones. Why you ask, didn't want to take this thing apart again for as long as I owned it. Pm me for pics and whatnot.

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Mike's touring is very nice, saw it in person a few weeks ago. Hoping to own one someday myself, I would most likely just swap in an M/S50 and keep it as a daily. The M42 is my tinkering vehicle.

Thanks dude...I just installed my Bosch inj's and JiXer's phenolic spacer the other day. I will be adding a writeup on this thread/forum and on r3v in the next few days.

MikeDE · « **Reply #54 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:01:40 AM »

(Just incase ya didn't see it in the Engine & Driveline subforum)

I bought the phenolic spacer from JiXer way back when, and a set of Bosch gen3 4-pintle injectors from another member whose name escapes me ATM.

Install of the Spacer was pretty straight forward. Same as R&R of the intake manifold, with the exception of having to remove the short studs in the head and replacing them with the longer studs included in the Kit that came with the spacer.

As for as having any issues with the manifold being further from the head, the only minor ones I encountered were with the manifold brackets. The one that sits on the front of the motor, I spaced about a cm away from the head with some aluminum spacers I had lying around. The rear bracket by the ICV I did nothing to except to use a Large washer on the int mani side of the bracket so it still grabbed the slot.

Now onto the important part: How well does it work?? I believe it does its' job quite well, why do I say that?? I have an infrared pyrometer I used for before and after testing. Pre-spacer after a mix of hwy/city driving, the head temp by Cyl 1 by the IM ports is about 195*F, the IM is also 195*F about 1.5-2" from the cyl head. Post-Spacer same head temp, same driving pattern/trip, and my IM was measuring 135*F, a 60*F difference.

I just did a hard hwy trip of about 25mi(60-105mph), then another 5mi to my house(30-50mph). Shot the head, 200*F, while the intake mani read 140*F, again 60*F difference.

In conclusion, it works pretty well. There is only one downside I have noticed, I'll get to that in a minute. Though it nothing at all to do with the quality of the spacer or the kit. I feel that forced induction may benefit from it more for more than one reason. One is the question of under hood temps(redhot exh manifolds/turbine housings/IC piping, etc). Anything to help battle heatsoak in FI-applications is a plus.

(*KEEP in mind that I installed the Bosch Gen3's at the same time, this may have also had an positive impact on the low-end tq*)

The Second reason it may be suited better to FI coincides with my 'downside' of this spacer. It effectively lengthens the intake manifold, substantially enough to alter the M42's high-and easy-revving nature. It trimmed my powerband noticeably. After the spacer I noticed it lost the willingness to rev easily above ~5000rpm. It felt limp up there vs. beforehand when it ripped thorugh 2nd & 3rd gear like butter up through 6000+rpm, 4th was fairly decent on the hwy as well. With FI, I don't think it would be as noticeable due to the extra power/wider powerband.

Don't get me wrong, the lowend->midrange Tq was very, very nice, it reminded me a little bit of my Seta. After 4500rpm, it wasn't the same though. It would lose a bit of steam. This topend rev-ability is why I chose the M42.

To try to counter this shift on the powerband, I tried to shift it back up there. So yesterday, I pulled the VC, and advanced the intake cam a few degrees. The washers were previously centered in the cam-gear slots. I advanced the cam to the point where the edge of the washers now lined up with the edge of the slots on the cam gears. So in other words, almost all the way.

I did some hwy pulls in 3rd & 4th gear and it was a bit better. Pulled to ~5400rpm then began to get winded. The lower end of the rev range was still nearly as torquey as before.
I plan to keep an eye out for an extra lower intake maifold section. I want to see if it's possible to shorten it slightly to maintain the original runner length when adding the spacer.

These are only my observations according to my butt-dyno. It is a fantastic product that does it's job well.

If anyone else has installed it and noticed anything, please respond here.

DRTE30 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 23, 2012, 05:06:27 AM »

Guten tag. Wie gehts? Wo wohnst in Deutschland? Kaiserslautern oder Ludwigshafen?

I have enjoyed reading your thread; very informative and interesting. I could never figure out what the name was for a wrecking yard in German until discovering your thread. Viel danke!

My only chime into your current situation with the extended runners, change in the power band and how it's trailing off can be alleviated by removing the spacer(s) which is the obvious solution, or perhaps now that you've advanced the cam and are running different injectors, maybe the next best thing is to find a dyno, install an aftermarket chip and fpr and do some simple tuning of the cam(s) and the fpr. Or perhaps another notion is that since these spacers are more suited for FI, that you need to take some steps in allowing the engine to receive a bit more air whether it be opening up the slots in the grill to allow better access or some other crafty solution.

I'm not exactly sure? Just a couple thoughts.

Tschuss.

MikeDE · « **Reply #56 on:** January 23, 2012, 12:35:13 PM »

^ It's been a few weeks since then and I believe the DME has adapted to the new injectors and o2 sensor I put in shorthly thereafter. I still have a slight leak in my header at the cyl #1 runner and flange(where it attches to the head). This is most likely affecting A/F as it is introducing unmetered air into the system. I just have to get gas for my welder this week so I can fix it.

Updates to come.

BTW I live in Kreis Bad D�rkheim, and bwawuz02 is up around K-Town.

d.hitchcock · « **Reply #57 on:** January 23, 2012, 05:04:43 PM »

Great looking work!

Lots of inspiration and info for my M42 timing chain/sprockets/tensioner project coming up this week.

Thanks,
d.hitchcock

PeabnutBubber · « **Reply #58 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:31:13 AM »

Ugh, damn. I never checked this thread and apparently didn't subscribe. I was scanning through your build to look for pointers for when I'm putting everything together. I appreciate your help anyway though, sir and your touring is looking right fancy.

I cleaned everything up and the new M42 timing case is already on. I'm going today to finish the rest of the work. Hopefully it's running by this afternoon or tomorrow. Whatever happens, it will be a momentous achievement for a guy who's never worked on cars before.

Author Topic: MikeDE's M42-Touring project...UPDATE Sept.24-Susp/Brakes.... (Read 32287 times)

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