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Ramblin MAn

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« on: October 01, 2006, 07:59:23 PM »
For those that have added a turbo after the fact, what did you do about fuel and the ecu? Chip?

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2006, 10:30:18 PM »
From what I have seen and read, up to about 6 pounds of boost or so you should be ok.

Any more and you will need something more. Megasquirt would be my recomendation.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2006, 09:31:33 AM »
No matter what the boost is you need something to add more fuel,
at 6psi a FMU does the trick, as most often nothing needs to be done about timing, as the IAT rises and the ignition is backed off anyway,
after that a standalone is definitly the way do do it

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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2006, 11:44:35 AM »
Downing Atlanta is now using a boost sensitive fuel pressure regulator to go up to 7psi. No chip or injectors.

An increase in pressure and/or larger injectors could likely do the same thing.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2006, 12:05:02 PM »
yeah I think I am going to try just the 24# injectors before I put my FMU on.  Hopefully I won't even need the FMU.  We'll see ;)
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2006, 02:03:52 PM »
Quote from: asubimmer
yeah I think I am going to try just the 24# injectors before I put my FMU on.  Hopefully I won't even need the FMU.  We'll see ;)



when your off boost its going to be way to rich

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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2006, 02:53:55 PM »
Quote from: nickmpower
when your off boost its going to be way to rich


Easily solved by never going off boost. :p

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2006, 03:38:15 PM »
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Easily solved by never going off boost. :p
you are a smart man ;)
 
its going to be fine
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2006, 01:13:17 AM »
if you do it , do it right , 1 bar of pressure in an m42 engine with 8,5:1 , forged pistons and a parralel ecu , 4 extra injectors and you will playing with 300++ hp...and 32++ kg of torque...

isn't that nice.........................................
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2007, 03:54:41 AM »
Okay, so I have a question along the lines of the OP, maybe we can get a list of parts that are needed for going turbo?
 
Turbo- GT28RS, etc..  What gives the best tuned powerband?  
Megasquirt- What does this let me use for ECU or whatever, how high can I rev?  I am running a DINAN ebay chip now.
(Will this let me not run an IC?  How expensive is adding an IC?  I think I would want one if going for lots of power?)
Walbro FP?
Injectors- Which are best?  (what does 4 extra entail?)
Oil Cooler?
Some sort of intake- bored TB, even ITB?  
Manifold- 666 or something, or custom if i can.

How much psi can I run? 1 bar would be nice!  
ANy other info on things I will need? Oil temp/pres. and boost gauges..tial wastegate...

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2007, 01:04:44 PM »
Quote from: asubimmer;12577
yeah I think I am going to try just the 24# injectors before I put my FMU on.  Hopefully I won't even need the FMU.  We'll see ;)


Like someone said, you'll be running rich if you go this route. A cost effective work around would be to use something like the Apex-I AFC to trim your fuel values for better off-boost response and idle.

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2007, 05:08:16 PM »
well I sold the fmu and decided to just go ahead and run MS.  I figured that it would just be better in the long run.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2007, 08:15:47 PM »
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if you do it , do it right , 1 bar of pressure in an m42 engine with 8,5:1 , forged pistons and a parralel ecu , 4 extra injectors and you will playing with 300++ hp...and 32++ kg of torque...

isn't that nice.........................................


300hp with 15lbs of boost?

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2007, 01:48:05 AM »
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300hp with 15lbs of boost?
15 should be somewhere around 250ish and 20 should be just about 300 if my calcs are right...it kinda late :rolleyes:
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2007, 01:54:41 AM »
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15 should be somewhere around 250ish and 20 should be just about 300 if my calcs are right...it kinda late :rolleyes:



I believe your correct, but it also depends on cams headwork and other things done internally and components used to maximize efficiency of that boost. i bet you could do 300 with a lot of money into components and the actual engine/machine work intakes and the like.
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