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« on: June 13, 2011, 10:56:40 PM »
Hey guys,

I have the fluke 88 auto digital multimeter and decided to today to use the RPM inductive pickup on my e30 for the first time. But the readings were a little off. Has anyone used this tool or another RPM reader and measured it against the guage? Also were the reading bouncing even thought they stay in the range of where it should be? Not sure when a car is idling 800, what is the plus and minus value. I know the idle on the m42 should be 850 +- 40 as per factory repair manual.

Just wondering what others have found.
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 11:00:44 PM »
The meter probably fluctuates because the ignition advance is changing as the ECU works to keep the idle stable. It probably just measures the time between ignition pulses to get RPM, and with changing ignition advance comes varying RPM values by this method. I'd imagine that holding the motor steady at higher RPMs would provide a more steady value since it can sample & average more ignition events for a given time period.

The only really accurate way to pull RPM is to use one of the VR sensors (crank provides best resolution, cam is the simplest to work with).

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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 11:12:51 PM »
Thanks. What would be easiest way to use one of the VR sensors. I am reading up on it now but thought I would ask while I do some research. I know they give the read out in resistance but would need a table to compare it to is what I am guessing.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 11:20:01 AM »
VR's are pretty tricky to work with. They use magnetic inductance...basically, they put out a sinusoidal voltage, with frequency that is related to engine speed (each time a tooth passes, a new pulse is generated). As the speed increases, so does the amplitude though.

The crank sensor is harder to work with because it has a 58 tooth ("60" teeth, with 2 missing as a TDC marker) wheel, so you get 58 pulses + a 2-pulse gap per revolution. The cam sensor is easier and you get 1 pulse per 2 revolutions of the engine. Because the VR sensor's output voltage can hit pretty high peaks (up to 50V), you need a special conditioning circuit to convert each positive zero-crossing of the output into something nice & clean, like a brief 5V pulse that most microelectronics can read. If you read up on the LM1815 chip on the Megasquirt sites, you can find some good info on setting something up.

Actually getting at the signals is a pain too. You do not want to go chopping up the shielded wires on the VR sensors. The only spots to get at the signal lines are inside the black cable box under the intake (and even there, you only get about 1" of exposed wire), or by soldering a wire onto the input pin in the Motronic.

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