they look a lot like proxes 4's. I have them on some black bbs 215/40/17. these things have amazing dry traction as w/ any high performance tire, but in rain they are frickin sweet! I mean, i can get sideways if i really WANT to, but i have to conscienciously push it to break loose. i make fairly quick maneuvers as well as very high speed lane changes in heavy rain and they will hold their own. i have to say that i have barely hydro-planed at all, and that was only during lane changes hitting built up rain in between lanes. definite recommend for all-season high-performance tire. if i don't go straight summer high-performance for the next set of rubbers, then i will definietly either give these another run or check into pirelli