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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 02:55:02 AM »
In E36s we can bolt-on the brakes from 330i e46, that are 325x25 front and 320x20 rear... I can tell you that I can drive more fast even with the same low power engine! The brakes are amazing. I don't know if there are "oem big brakes" from others bmws that will bolt on in your e30s... I can tell you too that they have power enough for turning on ABS at 100mph and more...

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2007, 03:02:53 AM »
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Sorry for my wrong terminology, but still those calipers would be lighter or equal to stock so no more weight added.


Yes, however bigger discs is really where the weight is and since they are accelerated in two directions, they store a propotionally high amount of energy.

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2007, 03:04:37 AM »
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Ok, thanks for the information.
Your friend managed very well. Everything under 10 minutes is fast.
For faster times you will need much more power. A friend of mine have done it little over 8 minutes with Porsche 944 Turbo. Some friends were just at the Ring, one of them drove under 8 minutes. Car was over 500 hp Porsche 993TT


Yes, certainly for an E30 to go faster, a lot more power is needed for the climbs!

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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2007, 03:15:43 PM »
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dont know if this matters but do ouir front brake cooling ducts have anything to do with the greenstuff lasting on our cars?


Porsche 944 Turbo ducting is much more efficient. These cars i mentioned also have Porsche 968 CS M030 option ducting which is much better than original 944 Turbo system.

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2007, 07:08:04 PM »
I've experienced Massive brakes first hand in Lee's E30 M3, he was my instructor at one of the Driving school with the Quebec Chapter of the BMW club and they work wonders. No fade, only very good braking for the entire day and believe me, he is hard on the brakes braking very very late. Two of my friends also use them and they are loving them, on the streets and on the track. I will get some when I can come up with the money.

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2007, 04:17:53 AM »
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My thoughts would be to critique your braking technique rather than add the rotational intertia of big rotors.


Yeap, that was the first thing I've thought :-) But no, it was all right with the technique... The point is that it was happening with getrag 225 combined with 4.1 LSD - so very short shifted setup. It really was too much for theese rotors. I was using a new set of ATE powerdisck and ATE pads.

For stock setup, with stock tranny there is no way to blow the brakes ;-)

So, I need something more efficient and I'll definately go bigger rotors :-)

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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2007, 10:21:03 AM »
Hi everyone.

If you have any question in regard of brakes in general (yes, I can be unbiased - no pun intended) and Massive products in particular, it will be a pleasure to help. There are basically two kits for e30s. Race kit (300mm x 32mm rotors and Superlite forged caliper) or Sport kit (300mm x 21mm and Superlite forged caliper). I offer the option of a softer Dynalite calipers if you want extra lateral clearance, but it has 1mm extra overall radius, and not as stiff as the Superlite for the same price...

Those kits will fit only a few 15" wheels (Team Dynamics, Kosei K1 with 6mm spacer), and many 16" wheels. A client has just tested his front Race kit at Summit Point on his e30 with Euro S50B32 and let me know there was never any brake fade.

May I mention that unless you track your car, you won't need bigger brakes. When tracking your car, start bleeding your stock system, and use proper pads. That will do for most of us.

I am also starting taking pre-orders for the rear race kit (no ebrake). For racecars only. $100 discount on pre-paid orders until September 1st. Rear kit has aluminum hats, and 300mm x 21mm rotors. Stainless steel brackets.