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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 02:08:28 AM »
I stuffed in a rack from a 1997 Z3 1.9L. This is the one you want...2.7 turns L2L. Originally I was looking at M3 ones, but Jordan (Stuck) informed me that the Z3 one is the best option.

- I had an airbag-equipped car, and no knuckle modification was necessary.

- You do need to stack a bunch of washers in the mount tabs since the corresponding part on the Z3 rack is thinner (and you don't want to bend the hell out of the crossmember tabs).

- The PS hose with the metal hardline also needed some tweaking. I just bent the part (that goes near the motor mount arm) on my knee so that it wasn't touching anything.

- I did need to take a half-round file to the hole in the firewall on the lower-right corner (looking at it from inside the car) to make the proper clearance.

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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 02:09:12 AM »
Quote from: visionracingdevelopments;110411
+1 what I'm fitting:



Hey, you got that in there backwards! :p

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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 07:49:59 AM »
I cleared my mind of everything I knew, or thought I knew about E36 steering racks and studied the thread http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1370008&highlight=steering+rack. I then edited and condensed what I thought was the best information devoid of rumor or subjectiveness (If anyone has any specs for the E46 racks I'd like that info). It's not really as confusing as the internet makes it out to be.:p
 
Non-M Z3
mm/rev on center: 53.5mm
rack type:
on-center ratio:
ratio @ lock:
mean ratio:
rack length: 144.5mm
turns lock to lock: 2.7

1996+M3/E36
mm/rev on center: 45.5mm
rack type: progressive
on-center ratio:
ratio @ lock: 15.4:1
mean ratio: 15.6:1
rack length: 145.6mm
turns lock to lock: 3.2

1995 M3:
mm/rev on center: 39.0mm
rack type: progressive
on-center ratio: 19.8:1
ratio @ lock: 15.4:1
mean ratio: 17.6:1
rack length: 117mm
turns lock to lock: 3.0

Rack Ratio is a calculation of how many degrees the front wheels turn per (1) 360 degree turn of the steering wheel. Steering Rack Ratios are application-specific, and dependent upon the geometry of the spindle they are attached to. Since the interface between the spindle pivot point and tie rod attachment point create the geometry of a lever, two identical racks installed into two differing chassis may result in differing ratios, as the lever geometry resulting from the spindles in each chassis may be different. The most accurate way to compare rack performance is the on-center mm/rev spec. Simply put, this is the linear translation in millimeters per (1) 360 degree rotation of the pinion gear from center (defines initial rack quickness). Overall rack gear length determines the lock to lock range and comparative turning radius potential.

Basically there is a simple rule that ALL E36 racks (including Z3 and ti) are the same with only TWO exceptions.
1-1995 M3 is slower (less mm per pinion revolution)
2-Any Z3 (besides M models) is faster (more mm per revolution)

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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2012, 02:06:35 AM »
Quote from: bmwman91;112090
I stuffed in a rack from a 1997 Z3 1.9L. This is the one you want...2.7 turns L2L.


Where did you source your rack from, parts yard, or online?

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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2012, 10:03:48 AM »
Just ordered the 2.7turn kit from Zionsville, should be getting installed next week.

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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2012, 11:52:43 AM »
I got my rack (used) from http://www.car-part.com for around $220 shipped. I think it had 80k miles on it or something.

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