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« on: January 08, 2008, 09:33:04 PM »
is there a way to bypass the abs? i.e. a fuse could be removed? without being dangerous..

i simply want to feel the difference between ABS and none to really see the advantages and disadvantages. i've read that in snow and wet the abs will make the braking distance longer while its only under dry tarmac situations that the abs will shorten the braking distance. of course in any situation the abs allows the driver to keep a certain control but isnt that some sort of fake  domineering safety?

also does anyone know the weight of the total system and what removing it would involve? new master cylinder? i know there are different axles for ABS and no-abs. what exactly is the difference?

you can probably see where i'm going. i'm trying to find whats everything in my car doing. if its useful for my kind of driving and if it can be upgraded or removed. i wish to eventually build a simple and efficient, lightweight car that's fun to drive and encourage good driving aptitudes.

i know ABS can save lives and is probably a safety feature i shouldn't remove. if there's a way i can test the difference and learn more i'd like to try

also what e30s came with ABS and which didnt? maybe i could swap the master cylinder??

sorry if i've been asking many questions these last days. i just want to learn the most i can so the car i'm building can be my ultimate driving machine

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 09:42:44 PM »
ABS typically can shorten your braking distance in most all situations UNLESS you never panic or drive tired etc.

Most people who are not excellent drivers will have a tendancy to stab the brake when really they should be braking in control for that reason I would not disable it.

The ABS in my 318i is way better than many other systems I have driven with, I do not feel that it has excessive downtime when its active, and I have seldom had it operate, even driving on icy and snowy roads it trips less than most.

I am surprised you are not already familiar with non-abs systems.  No abs you step on the brake hard the wheels lock up.  ABS you step on the brake they lock briefly and let go.  Since a tire has much higher traction if its not slipping on the surface it will maintain higher grip than if its sliding in relation to the surface.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2008, 09:46:20 PM by pbgd3skier »
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 09:45:47 PM »
thanks for the feedback!
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 09:49:31 PM »
I'm sure you can find a course in performance driving that will greatly shorten your learning curve.

Really performance driving should be kept to the track, you can never be certain when you'll come around that inspiring corner a bit hot and find a group of bicyclists or similar.  And for what's safe on the road you will not be held back by the abs in these cars.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 08:48:25 PM »
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I'm sure you can find a course in performance driving that will greatly shorten your learning curve.

Really performance driving should be kept to the track, you can never be certain when you'll come around that inspiring corner a bit hot and find a group of bicyclists or similar.  And for what's safe on the road you will not be held back by the abs in these cars.

i agree and i'd love to be more into track racing and take lessons. if i had the money i would spend my days trying to evolve as a driver. my abs concern was more about what's the biggest difference in feel between an equipped car and an non-equipped one so i could learn more about the car since i've driving only ABS equipped cars yet. it would probably help me to become a better driver since i'd know what's doing what.

in no way i'm wishing to become a faster street driver and i will always respect the other drivers' and pedestrians' desire to feel safe when using the public ways.

for the record, i'm keeping the ABS system. might need a little overhaul tho since some rails are starting to rust
« Last Edit: January 09, 2008, 08:50:41 PM by hoevesruperd »
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 06:56:06 AM »
pull the relay under the cover on the pump; your abs light will come on, not sure if I see a real benefit to disable.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 09:58:57 AM »
thanks
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 11:46:12 AM »
I have disabled it for autox before, but I really like the system, so I usually leave it.