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Engine management / Re: M42 ECU Conversion: Link G4X/E36X
« on: December 25, 2020, 02:19:30 PM »
Come to think of it the Mazda ones are for boosted applications.  But there's another Bosch one used on a lot of bikes that would be perfect:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bosch-1-Bar-TMap-Manifold-Absolute-Pressure-Sensor-with-IAT/264607384540?epid=1323920385&hash=item3d9bd443dc:g:gHsAAOSwoPJeJ-8E

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Engine management / Re: M42 ECU Conversion: Link G4X/E36X
« on: December 13, 2020, 11:09:55 PM »
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Question...I have seen some places mention that MAP sensors (and oil pressure) should not be mounted on the engine itself as the vibrations will cause premature failure. Other places make no mention of this. What is your thought on it?

Like so many things its on a spectrum, the answer is if you can remove mount the sensors you they will last longer.  The more high-frequency vibrations your motor has, the worse its going to be.  I've had customers direct mount them and they are fine.  We hard mounted them to some Rousch v8's in early Grand-Am days, they wouldn't last a race that way.

Bosch motorsports sensors are great, for your application just find their OEM application. 0261230030 1 bar TMAP is used on all sorts and will work great.
The PST-F1 is just a Mazda CX9 part.

That KS4 is super, super common.  Just google it.

I can't comment on whether the ones bought directly from Bosch Motorsports are in some way superior, but in my experience the OEM sourced ones have never failed me.  And its really, really hard to mess up something like a KS4.  If I was running a pro-racing team, I'd buy them from Bosch Motorsports for the peace of mind.  On my car?  I'd find the cheapest alternate supplier version - not to save money, just to see for myself if there's any difference in performance or longevity.

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Engine management / Re: M42 ECU Conversion: Link G4X/E36X
« on: December 11, 2020, 09:17:24 AM »
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Ha, small world it seems! At least it is for lovers of old German cars.

Yes it is, and one more thing:  Jimmy's car also runs a Link ECU, so there's another resources for this thread.

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Do you have a recommendation for a type or source for splices? I'd like to find a small/compact butt splice with heat shrink tubing for some areas of the harness where BMW used an existing splice but a lot of extra wire looped in (which I'd remove) for ease of assembly. For a case like where a bunch of wires join (like where most of the ECU ground all tie together with one larger conductor that goes to the ground lug, what's a good sleeve type to use?

See here:

https://www.milspecwiring.com/search.asp?keyword=splice&search=GO

The more expensive Raychem ones come with shrink, the less expensive barrel splices you should cover with a piece of semi-rigid glue shrink:

https://www.milspecwiring.com/W5-Glueline_c_450.html

I don't find a need to use the Raychem species except where weight and compactness is the #1 priority; in practice I feel both work the same.

Cheers,
Neel






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Engine management / Re: M42 ECU Conversion: Link G4X/E36X
« on: December 09, 2020, 04:10:21 PM »
Ralph, thanks for the kind words.  Jimmy is a good friend and I look forward to when I can see him and his stable of E30's myself!

The funny thing is I am here as a "civilian."  Though I've been a tuner for 20 yerars, I've never tuned my own car.  So its time to put my money where my mouth is.  Guess I'll be taking my work home with me!

All great info here.

Welcome to the forum Neel !!  We can definitely trust what Neel brings to the table since I know of Neel and have heard only great things about him.

Neel... we have a mutual friend !!! Jimmy Pettinato. Neel did an amazing job with Jimmy's 2.3L S14. Jimmy is a really great friend of mine.

Welcome again!!

Cheers,
~Ralph

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Engine management / Re: M42 ECU Conversion: Link G4X/E36X
« on: December 08, 2020, 01:27:48 PM »
All good.  I'm in Southern California, smog's going to be an issue.  A circuit that will convert common ABS wheel speed sensor outputs to a 0-5V square wave without any effect of the operation of the ABS is something I wished I had multiple times.

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Engine management / Re: M42 ECU Conversion: Link G4X/E36X
« on: December 07, 2020, 11:06:59 PM »
I'm glad to have ran into this thread,   I joined this forum yesterday, and I happen to be a motorsports electronics engineer.... and a Link dealer... and am converting my 318ti M44 to a standalone ECU in the next few weeks.

Comments on your thread:

1.  You can get all those Mini Timer (we call them Bosch LK's) connectors and components from milspecwiring.com or racespeconline.com.  Great resources for engine management system wiring supplies.

2.  Based on your posts, if you can somehow return that E36X link, I would.  Get yourself a Storm or Extreme instead, the hardware is the same but they have a lot more flexibility as they're not constrained to the BMW AMP connector on the ECU.  You can find the headers with flying leads, or even buy complete adapter harnesses, in plenty of places.  So its still plug & play, but more flexible.  This is what I'll be doing, with adapters for several different ECUs.

3.  When you're ready for knock sensing, get a Link KnockBlock or another knock audio amplifier with a 3.5mm audio out that you can connect to your computer. 

4.  Go fully sequential on fuel and I'd consider a coil on plug conversion to go fully sequential spark as well.  I've just received the plate and coils to convert my M44.

5.  Link has 2 fueling modes, "traditional" uses MAP as the primary load source; you may find the modeled fuel equation better.  This uses MAP as well but creates an air charge estimate and then determines fuel mass to inject.  It requires a bit more injector data but its ability to track the lambda target is excellent.

6.  For traction control, throttle-based torque reductions are about NVH and emissions compliance.  Torque reductions based on fuel reductions and ignition cuts are more incremental, responsive and effective.

7.  The M50 IAC is a good one, so good in fact I use it everywhere.  I have twin M50 IACs on 1400hp turbocharged offshore powerboat V8s.  I used a pair on a Lamborghini LM002.  We used them for active engine braking control on Suzuki Superbikes.  Its the Swiss-army knife of air control valves.

8.  I highly recommend adding a fuel pressure sensor from the beginning.  It is the most common, #1 issue in engine management system installations, and doing it now will save you at very least an equivalent amount of time at some point later in your project.

10.  And NOW FOR THE WHEELSPEED SENSOR discussion.  Caveat #1:  I'm not an EE, I'm a calibrator with an old and worn out brain.  So please tolerate my muddling through the following:

All the Link ECU digital inputs are designed to read open collector 0-5V square waves.  They are not variable reluctance like the crank and cam.  They do have a software-selectable pull-up and you can define the edge.  Problem is that most ABS sensors are VR, and worse, they have a pretty low output at low speeds because of the tooth counts involved, as you saw from your testing.  I've used this unit:  https://www.milspecwiring.com/DMC-D-Converter-Wheel-Speed_p_528.html

I haven't had luck piggybacking ABS signals an ECU speeds with a mag/hall convertor, and I don't know anyone who has.  Standard practice is to get wheel speeds off of a CANBUS (which your ABS unit doesn't have) or to use an ABS unit that has open collector outputs.  2002 and later E46 ABS units are like this, and I know quite a few people who have retrofitted this to the E30 and E36 chassis with success.  Honestly, this is the best way for you to get traction control & upgrade your abs in one shot.  That said, it might be a fun experiment to see if you can share those signals between the stock ABS unit and get a reilable speed at the Link.

Feel free to ask any questions! As soon as I find a clean, complete DASC kit I'll be doing a standalone install myself.

Cheers,
Neel

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