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DISCUSSION => Electrical => Topic started by: bmwman91 on July 24, 2006, 01:37:22 AM

Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on July 24, 2006, 01:37:22 AM
OK, now that I have the digital position readouts on my mill working I can start making some nice brackets.  I got a hole saw too so, combined with a boring head & bar, I can make nice 40mm diameter holes instead of square ones.

Here is the oen I made today.  It turned out well, the only think I need to change is the offset of the threaded holes on the bottom...they need to come further left about .9mm and up about .4mm...the coil bodies are contacting the valve cover.  This will be corrected on all future brackets.

The cost will tentatively be $40 for the bracket and mounting hardware.  Making the harnesses the proper length...that is your responsibility :D .  It is sort of a pain, but well worth it.  I put a writeup in the DIY section for disassembling the connectors.

PICS!
(http://www.e30tuner.com/other3/bracket1.jpg)

(http://www.e30tuner.com/other3/bracket2.jpg)

(http://www.e30tuner.com/other3/bracket3.jpg)

(http://www.e30tuner.com/other3/bracket4.jpg)

Oh, and do not be fooled...for those that have never used precision machine tools (non-CNC), it may look real simple, but I will not even try to explain how it isn't, even with digital readouts!
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: Berlin on July 24, 2006, 03:27:55 AM
pics of it fitted?
Title: 2 questions.
Post by: D. Clay on July 24, 2006, 05:03:43 PM
1) Are the securing holes threaded? The two that are above the valve cover bolts. I was wondering if they could be used to secure a cover if the bolts were longer?  I would love a cover that had the roundel and "M42 POWER' on it.
2) Could a plastic holder or two of some sort be mounted on the tab for the wires. Strictly for appearance purposes.
I think it looks good - up to commercial standards. I'll be getting one. This may be the impetus I need to doll up my engine compartment. It currently comprises the the deepest, darkest part of the my little Bimmer's subconscious. A once good and true heart now covered in the filth and blackness of bad karma.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: nickmpower on July 24, 2006, 05:27:59 PM
yeah
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on July 24, 2006, 05:43:14 PM
I have not realyl given too much thought to a cosmetic cover yet...it would be hard to make a cool one w/o a CNC center.  I think for now it would be the buyer's deal to make one.

I have wrapped up the harness wires real nice and trimmed them.  It looks pretty clean.  personally, I like having the coils visible on there...popping the hood for other enthusiasts will make the mod a little more clear.  Future brackets I think I will spend a little more time with the granite block & fine sand paper to give them a nice finish.  Anyone know of a good place that does anodizing/powder coating affordably?  If this were anodized/powder coated black, it would be sliiiick!
Title: Anodizing.
Post by: D. Clay on July 24, 2006, 10:30:44 PM
There should be several in your area. There are four in Austin - pop. 500,000.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: fabby318is on July 24, 2006, 11:32:25 PM
Looks good!

Please put me down for one. Does the $40 include shipping? Let me know how you would prefer payment.

Thanks again,
Fabby
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: nickmpower on July 25, 2006, 12:49:05 AM
yeah i'll take one as well. Is it aluminum?
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on July 25, 2006, 09:39:59 AM
No, it is adamantium.  Unbreakable (it looks machined, but I actually cast it since we all know adamantium cannot be cut).

Yes.  The part is aluminum.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: nickmpower on July 25, 2006, 10:44:21 AM
well then why do you want to anodized it so bad, just polish it up to match the fins of the valve cover
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: asubimmer on July 25, 2006, 12:24:25 PM
yeah I was gonna say I think polished would be wayyy hawter.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: Euro Nation on July 25, 2006, 01:25:05 PM
That looks teh hottness

I'm going to make my own, and I had been thinking of producing the part but I don't want to steal your fire now that you're doing them. So unless I come up with something so special and different as to warrant production and thus competition I'm going to steer clear out of respect for you and the masses of work that you've put out for this community.

I do, however, think I've found a coil pack source that doesn't involve trimming the field stack on the #1 coil so I'm going to have to buy one for a test fit. Although I did just pick up a set of six of the same coils you're using for $42.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on July 25, 2006, 01:52:59 PM
Alternate bracket/coil idea are welcome.  I am not planning on making a living off of these (but don't steal the idea or the godfatherer may send some 'visitors' to your house to help you realize how sad idea theft makes him lol).

What sort of coils are these...do they use the same connectors as all the others that plug right in?
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: Euro Nation on July 25, 2006, 03:15:24 PM
After massive research and sneaking into pit areas to take forbidden close up pictures of obscure part numbers on top of uber high end engines, then making phone calls to friends with special 15gb pirated Bosch programs and crossing those numbers in hacked factory parts programs for certain manufacturers whos cars I may never own, then crossing that number through parts sources to find a surprisingly reasonable price and availability to the general public... all I can tell you is that the original place I found them is in this picture and it's about to pass that all carbon fiber 9K+rpm E46 with ease.

(http://www.euronationmotorsport.com/misc/alms2.jpg)

Outside of that, I don't think I'm ready to give up much more information other than they have the spark capacity to fire more than 500 claimed (ie: lying out their asses) hp from 2L and do so at WOT for 24hrs straight without failure.

I can also tell you that they don't share the plug, but I'm certain I can get the plug housings, seals and terminals without trouble.

On the off chance I end up marketing these I may just have to pay you royalties:cool:

Oh... and yes I did take the above picture myself.
Title: What IS your point?
Post by: D. Clay on July 25, 2006, 08:05:03 PM

An oil pump for one of those "Pontiacs" is over $6000.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on July 25, 2006, 08:05:42 PM
Royalties ftw.

Well, I look forward to seeing another COP setup.  Diversity brings the best ideas out!
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: asubimmer on July 25, 2006, 10:53:46 PM
the real question is does it come w/ a subscription to European Car lol ;)
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on July 26, 2006, 12:24:21 AM
Hah.  Yeah, the mag was on the table, so I figured why not look like a big enthusiasty type.  The magazine rarely has anything worth reading these days.  I dont give a rat's ass about FI'ed dyno queens or Porsches?Ferraris that I would not buy even if I had the $.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: Euro Nation on July 26, 2006, 01:12:48 AM
Quote from: D. Clay

An oil pump for one of those "Pontiacs" is over $6000.


Good thing we're not using the oil pump.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on July 26, 2006, 09:45:29 AM
Aaaaw, but I wanted one.  No fair.  Maybe if I sell my car and computer I wil be able to afford this amazing oil pump that will make my, well, would have made my car faster.
Title: Amazing oil pump.
Post by: D. Clay on July 26, 2006, 03:18:51 PM
It doesn't "foam" the oil and has lower parasitic losses. No foaming along with an oil/water intercooler allows smaller resevoirs, less plumbing, and less oil.
2-3 more horsepower and about 12 pounds less car weight.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: gjuuu on August 01, 2006, 07:54:28 AM
Excuse my ignorance but I am only just starting to look into this.  A couple of questions.  

What coils can you use for this modification?

Main concerns apart from fitment are:
1) Will I be able to use my existing connectors (#6) or will I need to get ones to suit the new coils?
(http://members.dodo.com.au/~wawawa/COP.GIF)
2) Would my existing wiring be ok in regards to current draw etc
3) The boot part (#4) that connects coil to plug - what part number do you use to get the correct length?
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on August 01, 2006, 10:19:25 AM
Teh original connectors fit fine.  You will definitely want to trim-down the harness, but you will not need new connectors.
Title: Me too!
Post by: D. Clay on August 01, 2006, 05:34:25 PM
Put me down for a bracket and the hardware or specs for hardware if you're not providing.
Title: Interest in COP bracket? [PICS]
Post by: bmwman91 on August 01, 2006, 07:41:33 PM
I will provide hardware with the unit.  We prolly need to work out what we are gonna do with the coils.  I get paid again next thurs, or if I sell a few of these before then I should be good to go.  I have 2 made up, pics in a few hours, and my original one for sale at a discount (the square-hole one).