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DISCUSSION => Swaps, Turbos, Buildups => Topic started by: fazerfreak on May 01, 2009, 04:42:43 PM

Title: E36 M40 318i Turbo .
Post by: fazerfreak on May 01, 2009, 04:42:43 PM: Hi..

i´m working on a e36 m4 turbo-build, it´s going well exept finding a good placement for the drain.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SfowXnLpiGI/AAAAAAAABKw/_Dh0TB9P-pQ/s640/IMG_0426.JPG)

i´m thinking about putting it top on oilpan, but i´m not shure if it will work, enny good tips to a newbeginner ??

is it posible to drill a hole in the block just above the pan ??

happy for eny hints..
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on May 01, 2009, 04:44:56 PM: the pan rightside under turbo:

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SftEOYzp1xI/AAAAAAAABLA/ZmkEA4B_dkE/s640/IMG_0429.JPG)

rear:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SftPTbCmkqI/AAAAAAAABLY/gL9WZwyK0zg/s640/IMG_0436.JPG)
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: Ivan Petrov on May 02, 2009, 11:16:51 AM: Ask ludiagsm ;) He has E36 318iS Turbo, E36 316i M40 Turbo and E36 328 Turbo
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on May 02, 2009, 03:04:57 PM: thnx, will do :)
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on May 08, 2009, 01:01:06 PM: just a small update.. this is how i´m mounting my oildrain:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SgRnhT4ZBMI/AAAAAAAABMI/bAtftUFCJ8A/s512/oljeretur.JPG)
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on May 15, 2009, 02:49:09 AM: e small update..
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SgyWrmLw5pI/AAAAAAAABNQ/QExkI0SSb_M/s576/IMG_0047.JPG)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SgyWsKGGmbI/AAAAAAAABNU/kdirvvZ6T2M/s576/IMG_0046.JPG)

i need hint about mounting oilcooler end oil temp sensor.
Title: its alive :-)
Post by: fazerfreak on May 27, 2009, 05:44:46 AM: going on racingtrack this weekend :D
minitest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3blElJEv7c)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/ShhET3wHNZI/AAAAAAAABPg/XLUUpX1anCw/s512/IMG_8538.JPG)

transport:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/ShzYJHVuxlI/AAAAAAAABPo/mWCzC60EIlk/s512/ibussen.JPG)

it needs some adjustment on fpr, but i´ll do that on the track.. eny recomendations on afr ?? around 13 ? i think i´ll fall on apr.2,8bar on fuelpressure on 4x300cc injektors, running 0,8-> 1,1bar , have turbochip with retarded egnition and som fuel changes, less on 0-3000, end som extra 3000->

i´ll let you all know how it goes :)
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: DesktopDave on May 27, 2009, 07:08:06 AM: Wow - that's ambitious. I'm happy that my stock M42 just runs reliably...you're reconfiguring that M40 totally. Let us know what kind of power you get out of it!

Looks terrific, keep us up to date!
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: Danny707 on May 27, 2009, 09:26:37 AM: 12.5 AFR is what you want.
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: BeamerIS on May 27, 2009, 12:37:27 PM: Nice project,
i am working on an E30 M42 turbo... Just love the way yours
looks... except for the spoiler ;) not really my thing
how's the car running ?
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on June 19, 2009, 01:55:15 PM: hi all :-)
been a while now but here is an update:
went on the track testing the car, setting was:
2,5bar basic fuel pressure
0.9mm spark plugs
0.9bar turbo pressure

i hadn´t adjusted the "airflowmessure?" so it went 2 ritch bellow 2000rpm (thats why 0.9mm sparkplugs), afr was around 10 when driving.. was playing around with the fpr.
result:
Plugs got blown out @apr. 5000rpm (was expected), had a hard time keeping it alive on low rpms.. to mutch fuel :).
exhost manifoil got some cracks doe to welding tension and no flex between manifoil-exhaust-wastgate.
a few destroyed sparkplugcables and some other few problems due to radiation heat from the turbo, and ofcourse the clutch got a hard time.. dooh.
But hey,all worth it.. so some new stuff is orded..

i made a small film from the first day, please keep in mind that i normaly drive a quattro with tiptronic ;), and not a good rwd driver..
first part of the film is from inside a 05 RS4 for referance..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbdOjjEOVXs
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on June 19, 2009, 01:59:40 PM: things that are orded..
Coilovers
heat protection all over..
new stage3 clutch 6-pad
sparkplug cables with high heat toleranse.
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on September 24, 2009, 06:24:53 AM: hi all, been a while now, racing season is over here now an the car is still running nice..
ha problems with my WG so got a bigger one..
Engine at the moment.. upgraded heat protection, better wg solution and some small other stuff..
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SqbBUrdLOeI/AAAAAAAAB1o/w97N_0QMgTM/s640/IMG_0640.JPG)
some changes in the driver envirement as well ;)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SqbEgogMTsI/AAAAAAAAB1w/gIGGNJo_33I/s640/IMG_0626.JPG)
a few action pictures:
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs245.snc1/9229_256775065526_873050526_8792786_4614419_n.jpg)
using k-sport coilover kit..
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs265.snc1/9229_254310990526_873050526_8739679_4201102_n.jpg)
planing to do some changes this vinter, pretty close to this:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QX5ak6pecwg/SrDqQApdrRI/AAAAAAAAB4I/udrpXNSuehY/s720/090912061.jpg)

a film from one of my practise days, bad driver but funny it was, have a laf @ it..:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHwFoxleQkU

engine spec at the moment:
4x 300cc @3,6bar
turbo @1,3bar
sparks @ 0,6mm
chip with retarded egnition..
thinking close to 240hp in engine..
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: naika on September 24, 2009, 07:20:58 AM: That's a really cool project you have!
Did you do anything to internals? I'm amazed to see an M40 take over 1 bar of boost and still be alive :)
Why did you install your AFM on the passenger side? any advantages? if you have any details on that, I'm interested ;)
Where do you recycle the hose going from the catch can? into the air filter?
Any ways, I'll probably have a few questions later.
Thanks
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on September 24, 2009, 02:51:52 PM: hi.

Did you do anything to internals?
no changes other than fuel nossles?.
Why did you install your AFM on the passenger side? any advantages?
the AFR is mounted at same locaton that the original one is on exhaust, i´ve made my afr unit moveable (between cars)to have a easy wiring i´ve made a hole with the gearbox.

Where do you recycle the hose going from the catch can? into the air filter?
jepp, into air filter.
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: naika on September 25, 2009, 03:21:18 AM: Thanks for the answers, I was talking about the Air flow meter (not the AFR :) ) the AFM that is usually on the driver side and that installed between your cone filter and the turbo.
I wonder if there is any gain in doing that?

I'm impressed that you manage to boost over 1 bar on stock internals, that pretty crazy ;)
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on September 25, 2009, 12:47:03 PM: ops. sorry.. the reason for placing it infront of turbo is that i´ve heard that the AFM can´nt handle the turbo pressure and supposely easier to adjust right.
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: naika on September 25, 2009, 03:24:53 PM: that's a good idea, and it works without any problems? because if it does, I'll install mine that way. I guess you didn't have to modify anything, besides putting longer wires for the AFM plug, right?
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on September 25, 2009, 03:56:04 PM: works perfect, longer wires for the afm and tightning the "spring?" inside the afm, (about 25 clicks) used the afr ;) to see when i hitted a nice blend.
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: Danny707 on September 26, 2009, 03:29:25 AM: The AFM can handle boost pressure, it just doesn't read it as boost, just as hotter air.

So Fazer has the AFM in the spot it really should be in.
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: fazerfreak on September 27, 2009, 04:41:45 AM: the one i have have a "door" inside that messures pressure as well i think?
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: naika on September 27, 2009, 12:33:43 PM: so is it basically better to have it in the OEM spot or that wa fazer has it?
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: Danny707 on September 27, 2009, 01:35:51 PM: For turbo, the way fazer has it.

The AFM can't read anything above atmospheric pressure.
Title: E36 M40 Turbo oil-drain placement ??
Post by: naika on September 28, 2009, 10:13:26 AM: Alright, thanks ;)