M42club.com - Home of the BMW E30/E36 318i/iS
DISCUSSION => Engine management => Topic started by: finite on March 17, 2009, 03:53:42 PM
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Hey guys, anyone got any experience with these chips on fleabay?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130293365352
Thinking of getting one for my e30 318is
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Mark D or bust. I love mine.
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+1 for a Mark D. If you have 93 octane available to you, I hear the chip he has for that is especially good. Regardless, watching the tach go off the end of the scale is pretty exciting. :D
I've heard that a lot of these Ebay chips just copy the exact same setup from Mark D, Conforti, Dinan, etc. It's more expensive but I think it's "better" to support the people who actually created these setups, rather than the guys who are just copying them.
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It's more expensive but I think it's "better" to support the people who actually created these setups, rather than the guys who are just copying them.
+∞ Fuck imitations
Plus Mark is a really cool guy
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Some of us are on budgets... go with a pro formance chip from ebay. Best bang for the buck.
I'm all for supporting ppl who support the e30 community, but a $200+ difference in price is too much for me to justify.
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dinan ftw
ive ran markd and dinan both, over all there same, plus i got my dinan chip for 60
$ on ebay ;)
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dinan ftw
ive ran markd and dinan both, over all there same, plus i got my dinan chip for 60
$ on ebay ;)
I just can't beleive that my M42 chip is similar to a Dinan. Since you bought it on eBay, how do you even know it's actually a Dinan chip and not a clone of mine?
I'm curious how you have one of mine if you didn't appear to actually order one from me.
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Some of us are on budgets... go with a pro formance chip from ebay. Best bang for the buck.
I'm all for supporting ppl who support the e30 community, but a $200+ difference in price is too much for me to justify.
There are reasons why one costs more than the other. I've analysed a few "pro formance" chips and lets just say the guy selling them does not own that intellectual property.
Your post is trying to justify stealing someone else's work. Would you also go into a grocery store or Walmart, or wherever and take some items because you figure thay cost too much?
Or if you saw a poster you really liked that sold for $100, would you photograph it and make 10 more to sell at $20 each? Or how would you like it if some poor people broke into your home and stole your TV?
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I'm curious how you have one of mine if you didn't appear to actually order one from me.
ebay.
but im not flaming your product, you have great software!!:)
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There are reasons why one costs more than the other. I've analysed a few "pro formance" chips and lets just say the guy selling them does not own that intellectual property.
Your post is trying to justify stealing someone else's work. Would you also go into a grocery store or Walmart, or wherever and take some items because you figure thay cost too much?
Or if you saw a poster you really liked that sold for $100, would you photograph it and make 10 more to sell at $20 each? Or how would you like it if some poor people broke into your home and stole your TV?
Couldn't agree more.
I've been looking for a performance chip for my 95 318iS for a while now. Got one off eBay, and it didn't work...not happy.
What type of chips do you offer Mark D? And where do you post?
Cheers,
Jester
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Just came across these too (I'm keeping any eye on what "rubbish" appears on ebay)... anyone know about them?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-E30-318is-E36-318is-M42B18-chip-163HP-202NM_W0QQitemZ140316036583QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item140316036583&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
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i purchased one of these chips not too long ago. Didn't actually do anything...i couldn't even start my car :confused:
personally, i don't think they're worth it. i got a full refund for mine...so i wouldn't bother.
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newbie here from the far east (pilipinas) and an e30 owner..
if its not asking much Mark D pls oblige on how i will be able to get one of your "chip" (cost, shipping and all that jazz) and whats your edge from a JConforti chip?
gearheads over on this side of the world are leaning more on JCs than Mark Ds
tnx in advance budd.
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Paying for IP is worth it, support the developers!
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just scavange ebay for name brands.
dinan
markd
jim conforti
all those are good ones
even the ACS one is prob. alright, being they make other quality products
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Would you also go into a grocery store or Walmart, or wherever and take some items because you figure thay cost too much?
LOL, no if it "cost too much" then it cost too much and I just don't buy it and look for it somewhere else... like maybe ebay.
Totally different... I am buying a product, not "stealing a TV". I am not the guy selling them. Yes I am supporting him by buying from him, but that's the way it goes.
I feel for you putting in all the work and having it copied. I have no idea how much $ goes into R&D on these chips, so your price could be entirely justified. But I'm a cheap bastard and if I can find a deal... not ashamed of it. Not going to be guilted into spending $200 more.
BTW I have had products copied before and sold on ebay for much less and was actually forced out of selling those products due to costs. As I said above, that's how it goes.
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got my dinan chip new in the sealed package for $55.00 and i feel damn good about it lol
kinda makes me feel like i just stuck it to the man lol
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Couldn't agree more.
I've been looking for a performance chip for my 95 318iS for a while now. Got one off eBay, and it didn't work...not happy.
What type of chips do you offer Mark D? And where do you post?
Cheers,
Jester
Hi Jester,
I offer almost any chip required for a BMW, as that's what I specialise in. (see my site for specific chips). It's easier to tell you what I don't have for stock OBD-1 cars: a chip for the E34 530 manual and the super eta motor, but both are currently in beta testing and will be available soon. I actually developed the 530i chip 6 years ago but didn't release it. Now found someone with that model close by so will soon make a new version. Someone else in Torono is driving the super eta chip for the last 2 months.
I usually post here, but was not able to recently. I haven't been on this board since April 8, and before that not since December. But you can reach me by sending an email. My email address is easy to find.
Mark
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newbie here from the far east (pilipinas) and an e30 owner..
if its not asking much Mark D pls oblige on how i will be able to get one of your "chip" (cost, shipping and all that jazz) and whats your edge from a JConforti chip?
gearheads over on this side of the world are leaning more on JCs than Mark Ds
tnx in advance budd.
I've sold some chips to people in your country, but have to read more of the stock chips there as they use different maps. I may start reading some common chips there and selling them later this year.
Mark
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LOL, no if it "cost too much" then it cost too much and I just don't buy it and look for it somewhere else... like maybe ebay.
Totally different... I am buying a product, not "stealing a TV". I am not the guy selling them. Yes I am supporting him by buying from him, but that's the way it goes.
I feel for you putting in all the work and having it copied. I have no idea how much $ goes into R&D on these chips, so your price could be entirely justified. But I'm a cheap bastard and if I can find a deal... not ashamed of it. Not going to be guilted into spending $200 more.
BTW I have had products copied before and sold on ebay for much less and was actually forced out of selling those products due to costs. As I said above, that's how it goes.
It's people like you who make it hard for the actual developers of good products to justify the effort it takes to make those products. If I don't see a decent return on my investment, I won't consider making or releasing a product in the future. I know there are people cloning my chips and selling on bimmerforums etc. That's why my MAF conversion for OBD-1 cars is not being sold. I'll just keep it here in the closet instead of letting others make money off my work.
You are not buying a product. You are buying stolen IP. In most countries, if you buy fake Rolex's etc, they can be confiscated and destroyed.
Using your logic, there's nothing wrong with buying a stolen car or TV, either.
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As long as you don't know it's stolen...
You've been selling chips now for QUITE some time. Obviously it is worth it for you to be doing so, so you are making money. On the last group buy alone there were 10 buyers... $2000 in your pocket minus the chip cost and postage.
As I said, I feel for you, as I have had products copied/cloned & sold for cheaper as well. Now I don't make those products anymore. If there was anything we could do about we would.
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Mark stated recently that orders have dropped off enough that it's not a fulltime job anymore--not saying it's solely due to copies of his intellectual property but I'm sure the copies aren't helping him.
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^I definitely believe that... I'm actually kind of surprised it was ever enough $$$ to be a full time job before the copies.
I feel for him... but that's the way the market is. I had to go back to work after my products were copied... sucks having to work for someone else again.
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^I definitely believe that... I'm actually kind of surprised it was ever enough $$$ to be a full time job before the copies.
I feel for him... but that's the way the market is. I had to go back to work after my products were copied... sucks having to work for someone else again.
It was never enough to be a full time job. I was suplementing my income with contract firmware development, which I am focusing more on now. I'd rather be developing new chips, products and OBD-II files, but not so someone else makes money selling them.
I still work from my home office, and I'm not an employee. I'm developing something automotive related, you can read about it here:
http://www.skymetercorp.com
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Hi Jester,
I offer almost any chip required for a BMW, as that's what I specialise in. (see my site for specific chips). It's easier to tell you what I don't have for stock OBD-1 cars: a chip for the E34 530 manual and the super eta motor, but both are currently in beta testing and will be available soon. I actually developed the 530i chip 6 years ago but didn't release it. Now found someone with that model close by so will soon make a new version. Someone else in Torono is driving the super eta chip for the last 2 months.
I usually post here, but was not able to recently. I haven't been on this board since April 8, and before that not since December. But you can reach me by sending an email. My email address is easy to find.
Mark
hey Mark,
i've checked your site, and the list of ECU doesn't show mine. I've just a couple of days ago realised that my ECU has EWS on it...and that would be the main reason why the chip i bought off eBay didn't work. Do you make any performance chips for this ECU? the ECU# is 0 261 203 590
Cheers,
Jester