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DISCUSSION => Suspension => Topic started by: Cobra Jet on March 09, 2009, 11:29:39 AM

Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: Cobra Jet on March 09, 2009, 11:29:39 AM: Just curious as to how many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings (these are the ones in the "lollipops")...?

Based on what I have read, most E30 owners seem to upgrade to these because they are a solid bushing and supposedly allow more front wheel alignment adjustments...

Pros/cons?

Do other M3 parts need to be used in conjunction with these bushings, or are they just a plug-n-play upgrade for the E30's?

thx!
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: tjts1 on March 09, 2009, 12:10:34 PM: I have them. They create more caster (and therefore more camber when you turn the wheel). You don't need any other modifications to use these. I like them because the steering feels more solid. It makes sense to install these when you replace worn out control arms. In my car I use them along with E30 M3 stock springs, bilstein HDs, vert front sway bar and E36 rack.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: Cobra Jet on March 09, 2009, 02:07:39 PM: Quote from: tjts1;67953
I have them. They create more caster (and therefore more camber when you turn the wheel). You don't need any other modifications to use these. I like them because the steering feels more solid. It makes sense to install these when you replace worn out control arms. In my car I use them along with E30 M3 stock springs, bilstein HDs, vert front sway bar and E36 rack.

excellent - thanks!
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: P. Kennedy on March 09, 2009, 05:00:30 PM: me
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: E30tii on March 11, 2009, 05:53:26 PM: I'm have them installed too. Put them in when I replaced my control arms and tie rods. Using Bilstein Sports, H&R Sports & E36 steering rack. With this setup, it moves the wheels further forward in the wheel well and the tires rub when turning at full lock. Don't know if this is because of the rack, the bushings, or both.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: tjts1 on March 11, 2009, 07:04:06 PM: Mine rubs the plastic on the inner fender as well at full lock. It's not a big deal.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: max123 on March 14, 2009, 11:51:34 PM: I used the z3 m-coupe control arm bushing. They are great, they don't have any offset but they are solid - so there is no change to stock camber just a rock solid in the corners.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: 318isfolife on March 16, 2009, 02:31:09 PM: does anyone know about the tree house racing green eyeball bushing. i have the offset ones now they were great, until they broke. so i was thinking about switching to the green eyeballs.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: HaNasich on March 17, 2009, 02:11:58 AM: how come any1 here manage to kill their bushings?
i replaced mine (original from 1990) with AKG one's, and as far as i could see the originals were ok.
how can you tell that the bushing is dead?
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: 318isfolife on March 17, 2009, 06:57:22 AM: when they crack from extreme stress and you can feel it when you have good bushing vs bad bushings in a turn. its sloppy.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: e30guydownunder on April 16, 2009, 06:58:44 PM: I've got m3 offset ones, love them....but my plastic inner fender pieces have seen a better day :) slight oversize tyres on fairly low offset rims aren't helping me either
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: fiftytakedowns on April 16, 2009, 09:11:48 PM: I have stock ones in box that I bought in a rebuild package, yet I kindof want to get the M3 offset ones, they float around for like 40bucks on some places. wondering if its worth it.... input?
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: tjts1 on April 17, 2009, 08:55:56 AM: I think they're worth it especially if you are doing anything else to the suspension like springs and shocks. I'm sure you can unload the ones you already have to cover at least part of the cost.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: superj on April 17, 2009, 10:40:00 AM: i ran them on my daily/autocross 89 325i for years. loved them. every e30 i bought after that got switched to them because of hte more solid feeling on the highway at top speed i got with those versus stock. i have a set waiting to go on my 318i now.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: deekay on April 17, 2009, 11:54:36 PM: Quote from: 318isfolife;68400
does anyone know about the tree house racing green eyeball bushing. i have the offset ones now they were great, until they broke. so i was thinking about switching to the green eyeballs.

i have them.

upside: very stiff; your control arms WILL stay where the eyeball arms hold them. lifetime warranty, and you're supporting a good vendor.
downside: very stiff; you will notice increased NVH.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: carlos318is on April 21, 2009, 03:32:27 PM: I have been told you have to have your tracking done after you upgrade to the M3 is this true
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: tampa e30 on April 26, 2009, 08:19:24 PM: got um
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: gearheadE30 on May 04, 2009, 08:51:27 PM: Running AKGs and cusom grease fittings in mine. Love em, and they really improved braking stability and turn in.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: Jtuner on May 11, 2009, 10:14:17 AM: Quote from: HaNasich;68427
how come any1 here manage to kill their bushings?
i replaced mine (original from 1990) with AKG one's, and as far as i could see the originals were ok.
how can you tell that the bushing is dead?

Mine you can tell just by sitting still and turning the wheel back and forth,, the CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK is a dead giveaway lol
After lifting my car up I can move the control arms in the bushings up, down, and side to side.. not to mention I can move my front wheels toe in and toe out with my bare hands lol
Just ordered the whole setup from ebay for $185 bucks shipped,, includes control arms, m3 bushings, inner/outer tie rods, and even suspension bar links :)
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: Asserti on September 29, 2009, 01:09:43 PM: I have them installed, but my geometrie is way off on my whole car.

This is how it is set now.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/10p7ck2.jpg)

I renewed every single bush and have Bilstein B8 suspension with H&R red 29663 springs and the M3 cab's.

Can someone give the normal / good / closest to factory geometry settings, with the cab offset bushes installed? Or how much difference I need to take into account when looking at my geometrie values?

Thanks in advance!

ps, I probably have a bad top mount, that's probably where the very bad values come from.
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: spanish_pants on October 27, 2009, 08:52:54 AM: I´m thinking of putting these on when i redo my suspension. Am i going to get alot of rubbing from using 225 50 15´s?
Anyone know what the part number is for the bushings?
Title: How many of you are using the E30 M3 offset control arm bushings?
Post by: gearheadE30 on November 05, 2009, 12:50:40 PM: Depends on what the offset of your rims is. Look for the bushings on pelicanparts.com