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FAQ / REFERENCE => How-To's => Topic started by: kowalski on March 10, 2006, 02:56:47 PM

Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: kowalski on March 10, 2006, 02:56:47 PM: 1x 25111434148 $37.45 z3 1.9 shifter

3. 1x 25111221849 $5.92 BEARING BOLT
4. 1x 25111220707 $13.73 BEARING, SHIFTING ARM
5. 1x 07129946400 $0.26 SELF-LOCKING HEX NUT
7*. 1x 25111469397 $7.60 each BEARING, SHIFT LEVER (*PN from Circle BMW. I don't know why it's different than that in realoem.com)
8. 1x 25111220912 $9.14 RUBBER BOOT
12 2x 25111220439 $1.02 each WASHER, PLASTIC 10X16X0,9/GELB 2 06/1986 09/1989
13 1x 25111220379 $0.70 CIRCLIP ZNS3
14 1x 25117503525 $15.07 GEARSHIFT ROD JOINT
15. 2x 25111221243 $1.24 each O-RING 10X2,2
16. 1x 25111220439 $0.51 SPACER RING
18. 1x 23411466134 $0.60 DOWEL PIN 1
19. 1x 25111203682 $1.50 TENSION BUSH
20. 1x 25111434194 $0.50 WASHER, PLASTIC
23. 1x 25111220837 $0.37 CABLE CLAMP 2 06/1986 09/1989

Total: $96.94

again, the instruction file is almost 600kb, how would i go about attaching this?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Febi Guibo on March 10, 2006, 03:53:25 PM: you got it man:

Bending Selector rod (http://m42club.com/writeups/shifter/UUC_Selector_Rod_Modification_Instructions.pdf)
Installing the Shifter (http://m42club.com/writeups/shifter/UUC_Shifter_Only_Install.pdf)

credit: kowalski and UUC Motorwerks (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/)
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: aglio on March 16, 2006, 09:43:59 AM: installed a Z4 3.0 shifter lastnight. no bend required.

tad notchier than i was hoping for, but all in all, i love it...SSK in a 318is is a great upgrade.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Febi Guibo on March 16, 2006, 09:53:57 AM: dwayne...!! you still in the game?!!! say it's true!
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: kowalski on March 16, 2006, 01:32:19 PM: Quote from: aglio
installed a Z4 3.0 shifter lastnight. no bend required.

tad notchier than i was hoping for, but all in all, i love it...SSK in a 318is is a great upgrade.

no bend required in the 318is 89-91. i'm not sure about other years tho so i thought i'd keep the bending instructions up there.

but yeah, the shifter is awsome, you get used to the notchyness and you don't even notice it after a while
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: stevohill on March 25, 2006, 09:26:42 AM: I also have the z4 3.0 in my car, picked it up for 25 bucks used on e30tech :). I didn't replace half of the parts on that list(no offense), just the shifter bearing, the washers and circlips, and it feels like a completely new car. Great upgrade for our cars and cheap too. Give it an a++ for anyone who has been contemplating it.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: asubimmer on March 25, 2006, 12:18:41 PM: I have a Z4 2.5l and I love it. Same hight as a Z4 3.0l on top but shorter on the bottom = slightly less shortness and knotchyness. Once again, like others have said NO bending of the selector rod is necessary. I changed all bushings etc. when I installed the lever.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: m42 fan on April 10, 2006, 11:04:09 AM: Just did this one on Sunday, went with the milder z3 1.9 shifter. Super easy install, took me <1 hour, and I didn't know what I was doing. As noted above, well worth the time and effort.

Brian
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: glockstalk on April 11, 2006, 01:33:55 PM: hello everyone! im noobie here and i have a stupid question. are you guys talking about putting a stock z3 shifter into our e30's or an after market short shifter for the z3?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Febi Guibo on April 11, 2006, 02:11:49 PM: stock Z3 or Z4 shifter
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: glockstalk on April 11, 2006, 02:46:30 PM: OK :D !! thanks, good to know. i love this forum! aftermarket short shifters for our cars are very expensive. how much will the z3/z4 shifter shorten the travel?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: asubimmer on April 11, 2006, 04:04:01 PM: (http://e30.electrontek.com/shift_levers/shift_levers_z-models.jpg)
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: glockstalk on April 11, 2006, 06:40:50 PM: great! the pics really help, thanks asubimmer. im going to keep my eyes open for a z4 3.0 shifter.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: thumper3ld on April 18, 2006, 06:43:07 AM: What do the numbers on the right represent in the shifter lever pic?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: romkasponka on May 07, 2006, 04:17:37 AM: it works and quite cheap ;)
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: M42boy on May 07, 2006, 02:15:01 PM: Quote from: kowalski
1x 25111434148 $37.45 z3 1.9 shifter

3. 1x 25111221849 $5.92 BEARING BOLT
4. 1x 25111220707 $13.73 BEARING, SHIFTING ARM
5. 1x 07129946400 $0.26 SELF-LOCKING HEX NUT
7*. 1x 25111469397 $7.60 each BEARING, SHIFT LEVER (*PN from Circle BMW. I don't know why it's different than that in realoem.com)
8. 1x 25111220912 $9.14 RUBBER BOOT
12 2x 25111220439 $1.02 each WASHER, PLASTIC 10X16X0,9/GELB 2 06/1986 09/1989
13 1x 25111220379 $0.70 CIRCLIP ZNS3
14 1x 25117503525 $15.07 GEARSHIFT ROD JOINT
15. 2x 25111221243 $1.24 each O-RING 10X2,2
16. 1x 25111220439 $0.51 SPACER RING
18. 1x 23411466134 $0.60 DOWEL PIN 1
19. 1x 25111203682 $1.50 TENSION BUSH
20. 1x 25111434194 $0.50 WASHER, PLASTIC
23. 1x 25111220837 $0.37 CABLE CLAMP 2 06/1986 09/1989

Total: $96.94

I think your parts prices are a little out of date. Again, I think this is a repost. Did you just order these? I went to order these and my cost on the shift lever was $57 with my 15% club discount. The total of all the parts here was actually about $150.

I decided to go with a single billet unit from Autosolutions.
http://www.autosolutions.net

See pic of the shifter here:
http://www.m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=514

That one piece replaces all the pluthera of parts listed above.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: e9nine on May 09, 2006, 09:09:55 PM: The list is a tad overkill but it's personal preference. I would say to at least inspect yours to see what is actually worn. I have done this 3 times (sigh) haha and I don't remember that laundry list of parts being necessary.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: enildeR on May 14, 2006, 04:01:22 AM: Don't forget that there is also this shifter one can choose

http://m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: B2thazizza on May 18, 2006, 09:29:49 PM: The z4 3.0 shifter is great with a small but weighted shift knob as what i have in my car now.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: kowalski on December 24, 2006, 03:34:39 AM: Quote from: e9nine;4702
The list is a tad overkill but it's personal preference. I would say to at least inspect yours to see what is actually worn. I have done this 3 times (sigh) haha and I don't remember that laundry list of parts being necessary.

its not that many parts, most of it is small plastic washers and such. as for the prices, it shouldn't be outdated, because i did wrote this about a week before i installed it all.

edit: after 16 years, most things are worn on these cars. the first time it all needs to be replaced, after that pick and choose whats worn.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: e9nine on December 24, 2006, 10:46:46 AM: Quote from: kowalski;16137
its not that many parts, most of it is small plastic washers and such. as for the prices, it shouldn't be outdated, because i did wrote this about a week before i installed it all.

edit: after 16 years, most things are worn on these cars. the first time it all needs to be replaced, after that pick and choose whats worn.

Not challenging you at all. I have done a thorough rebuild and a less thorough rebuild and the shifting between the cars has not been any different. Some might have been done by a PO as well hence me sometimes waiting to take stuff apart before ordering. Personal preference is where it's at :D

Pricing is hard to maintain hence the need to sometimes omit it as people call up BMA etc and filp the shiet at a price tally that's a few pennies more :rolleyes:
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: kowalski on December 24, 2006, 04:27:07 PM: hahaha yes, that some people do... I got a pretty decent discount for everything tho cause i had a VERY LARGE order, so that might be why my numbers are a little lower.

And your right, the only thing that effected shifting for me was the new nylon cup for the shifter. But i figure some stuff might fatigue, like a clip or something, and for the extra 5$ or so in my opinion I'll spend it.

and like e9nine says, don't get mad about inflation!
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Majikal on January 14, 2007, 11:29:09 AM: hate to resurrect an old thread but better than starting a new one... what is the SHORTEST shifter available? Also, where are you guys buying these parts from, dealers? I dont have any bimmer dealers nearby.
Title: Where to get it!
Post by: D. Clay on January 14, 2007, 04:17:21 PM: http://bmaparts.com (http://bmaparts.com/)
Click on Specials>BMW>Short Shift Kit. $75.
You can pick any of the shifters in the picture above. The round rubber bushing is where the wear if any comes from.
As an alternative you can buy just the shifter itself and reuse all of your old parts. I would recommend buying the plastic bearing as it easy to crack it doing the remove and install on an 16-18 year old car. #7 in the drawing.
http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AF93&mospid=47305&btnr=25_0026&hg=25&fg=05
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Majikal on January 14, 2007, 04:34:33 PM: thats awesome D. Clay, thanks for that link. Now which one should I go with? It seems like the z4 3.0 is the most popular, but is it the shortest or is the z4 2.5 the shortest?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: M42Technik on March 24, 2007, 10:30:32 PM: Quote from: Majikal;17565
thats awesome D. Clay, thanks for that link. Now which one should I go with? It seems like the z4 3.0 is the most popular, but is it the shortest or is the z4 2.5 the shortest?

Shortest isn't always the best choice if thats what you're thinking. I have the M Roadster/Coupe and it is a VERY short throw and sits very low. It is too notchy to most, but I enjoy it.

Remember, the higher the shift knob is, the less time it takes to bring your right hand down from the 2:30 position to shift.

http://www.e30m3performance.com/installs/ergonomics/my_approach2.htm

Read this, its very good.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: shellback on March 24, 2007, 11:07:31 PM: Quote from: Majikal;17565
thats awesome D. Clay, thanks for that link. Now which one should I go with? It seems like the z4 3.0 is the most popular, but is it the shortest or is the z4 2.5 the shortest?

i'd like to piggyback on that question:

which is the shortest and with the least "notch"?
Thanks,
Chris
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: achtungE30 on May 14, 2007, 09:30:48 AM: To anyone who did this mod?

How and where did you jack up your car and place on jackstands to comfortably access the shifter lever and replace it?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: dude8383 on May 14, 2007, 10:07:01 AM: Quote from: achtungE30;25692
To anyone who did this mod?

How and where did you jack up your car and place on jackstands to comfortably access the shifter lever and replace it?

You can access the shifter lever from the top...theres just one clip below.

http://understeer.com/shiftlever.shtml

Take a look there!
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: achtungE30 on May 14, 2007, 10:17:25 AM: Thanks, but even still - gotta get under the car to remove the circlip and washer, remove selector rod. I had my car on stands this saturday and crawled underneath to the bellhousing and saying to myself, "Shit, the car just isnt high enough and I still gotta crawl at least another 3 feet, to which my chest would be in contact with the bellhousing.

I guess I'll try ramps next time.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: dude8383 on May 14, 2007, 02:45:56 PM: Quote from: achtungE30;25696
Thanks, but even still - gotta get under the car to remove the circlip and washer, remove selector rod. I had my car on stands this saturday and crawled underneath to the bellhousing and saying to myself, "Shit, the car just isnt high enough and I still gotta crawl at least another 3 feet, to which my chest would be in contact with the bellhousing.

I guess I'll try ramps next time.

I can't imagine why you would be so close to the bell housing...

Why can't you slide in from the side?? Thats how I was able to reach it.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: nomad on May 21, 2007, 01:33:00 AM: what's the best single or pair of bushings to replace to get the shift to be crisper? I have an E36 M3 shift rod waiting to go in to my '91 is.
I bought the odd shaped shifter bushing and the small foam pad that fits in it, as well as the plastic cup. I figure I can reuse the little yellow washers and circlips if they are in ok condition. I just want to take acare of some of the sloppiness in the shifting along with a mildly shorter throw. I could have waited for a z3 shifter rod but it probably would have cost more.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: achtungE30 on June 13, 2007, 10:30:43 AM: Well I finally did this mod....had to take my car the local german car mechanic because I couldnt figure out my stumbling issue - so I had him install it while he had the car on the lift... When I got the car back, the shifter now sits 1-2" forward in neutral than before and shifting 1st,3rd,5th is now pushing up against the center console. He claims that the shifter arm underneath is too short. He's also asking me to ask you guys how long is the shifter arm from lever to trans so he can adjust a "fix" to it. I'm not quite sure thats necessary as all you have done it without issue.

I questioned him to a point without insulting him but what did he do wrong so I can correct it later myself? I used the Z3 1.9 shifter from BMA.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: r0ckrat on June 13, 2007, 02:35:12 PM: Spin the selector rod 180 deg (after disconnecting the pin that runs though it) and see if that solves the issue or not. I don't remember if the 1.9 shifter has a kink in it or not...
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: christophbmw on June 16, 2007, 01:24:54 PM: anybody running the Z3 1.9 shifter? or does anyone know the ratio of our stock shifter?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: achtungE30 on June 17, 2007, 06:29:15 PM: NICE!!! With a friend, I was able to "flip" mine and low and behold its sitting properly now. Shifts are crisp and short. Like brand new!
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: jrobie79 on August 13, 2007, 09:27:59 PM: i just bought a 3.0 lever from the dealer, now will i have to bend the lever itself? cause it came as a straight lever from the factory, but the stock one i took out had a kink in it, will this screw up shifting and will i be hitting the console? or will it sit properly in the middle there.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Asserti on August 14, 2007, 12:21:14 PM: Nice write-up! I'm going to do this one too, but don't know yet wich rod I'll take.

Also pay attention to this one folks:

Quote
Remove the shift knob by pulling straight up
with a firm tug. Be careful as you can punch
yourself in the face when the knob lets go or
punch the rear view mirror since you’re
tugging at it so hard. I find that if you
position yourself so that you cover the shifter
knob like you’re covering a grenade, you’ll
pull the knob and you just hit yourself in the
stomach.

First time I pulled a knob I left the car with my nose bleeding :D
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: bmwpower on August 14, 2007, 01:29:41 PM: Quote from: shellback;22141
i'd like to piggyback on that question:

which is the shortest and with the least "notch"?
Thanks,
Chris

+ 2.....................
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: silverblades181 on August 14, 2007, 01:46:35 PM: I just installed the Z4 3.0 and I love it. I had to slightly bend the selector rod since it was touching in 4th gear but I didn't change all the bushings so I assume that's the reason. I'll change them when I do my clutch.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: dude8383 on August 14, 2007, 02:35:21 PM: Quote from: bmwpower;31600
+ 2.....................

I'd say the Z3 1.9l. Its the least notchy and the throw is definitely shorter.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: carlos318is on September 30, 2008, 09:33:38 AM: Quote from: asubimmer;2649
(http://e30.electrontek.com/shift_levers/shift_levers_z-models.jpg)

Has any one used the Z4 2.5 and if so what is it like and is it simple to fit ie do you need to bend the push rod
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: carlos318is on October 23, 2008, 06:53:23 AM: Can any one say what is the best one to use:confused:
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Lars0ne on October 23, 2008, 12:13:12 PM: i would guess Z3 M or the Z3 3.0 if u want to move ur hand less.
but it has to be a balance between the feeling and the function.
shorter = more power to move it and vice versa. but if u are hee-man while driving u wont bother.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: carlos318is on October 24, 2008, 04:42:10 AM: I can not decide weather to go for the Z4 3.0 or the Z3-m does anyone have any suggestion's
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: C.Saenz on October 24, 2008, 05:11:59 PM: I say go for the z3-m. That way you can say you have an M-Powered tranny. I have a z3 3.0 and I love it. It is a bit notchy but I love the feel. Just my .02
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: darknight on November 03, 2008, 03:23:07 AM: I just installed a Z4 2.5L shifter. In a side by side comparison with the stock 318is shifter, the Z4 shifter doesn't look that much shorter. The top portion is probably less than an inch shorter, while the lower portion was slightly shorter. After installation, the Z4 shifter, again, looked slight shorter but the throws were definitely shorter but slightly more notchy than the original.

I was hoping for a much shorter length as depicted in the pictures. Anyone share the same thoughts?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: eric16v on November 07, 2008, 04:35:17 PM: Has any one used the ssk available from BMA? What were your opinions? Also is the kit comparable to the z3 1.9 or other?
thanks in advance,
eric
Title: I Have
Post by: keflaman on November 08, 2008, 01:03:41 AM: Quote from: eric16v;60166
Has any one used the ssk available from BMA? What were your opinions? Also is the kit comparable to the z3 1.9 or other?
thanks in advance,
eric

I installed my SSK and am happy except for the feel of the actual shift rod. I can twist it about 30 degrees in both directions (longitudinal axis) and it feels like I'm shifting with a hand full of wet spagetti.

I don't know if the rest of them are like that, or I just happened to get a shift rod with uncured dampening material:confused:

I've emailed BMA inquiring as whether they've seen or heard of any problems like this. Anyone else had this experience?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: e30Andym42 on November 28, 2008, 02:01:58 PM: Quote from: keflaman;60195
it feels like I'm shifting with a hand full of wet spagetti.

haha.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: e30Andym42 on January 11, 2009, 11:36:21 AM: Quote from: kowalski;234
1x 25111434148 $37.45 z3 1.9 shifter

3. 1x 25111221849 $5.92 BEARING BOLT
4. 1x 25111220707 $13.73 BEARING, SHIFTING ARM
5. 1x 07129946400 $0.26 SELF-LOCKING HEX NUT
7*. 1x 25111469397 $7.60 each BEARING, SHIFT LEVER (*PN from Circle BMW. I don't know why it's different than that in realoem.com)
8. 1x 25111220912 $9.14 RUBBER BOOT
12 2x 25111220439 $1.02 each WASHER, PLASTIC 10X16X0,9/GELB 2 06/1986 09/1989
13 1x 25111220379 $0.70 CIRCLIP ZNS3
14 1x 25117503525 $15.07 GEARSHIFT ROD JOINT
15. 2x 25111221243 $1.24 each O-RING 10X2,2
16. 1x 25111220439 $0.51 SPACER RING
18. 1x 23411466134 $0.60 DOWEL PIN 1
19. 1x 25111203682 $1.50 TENSION BUSH
20. 1x 25111434194 $0.50 WASHER, PLASTIC
23. 1x 25111220837 $0.37 CABLE CLAMP 2 06/1986 09/1989

Does any of this change for the z4 3.0 short shifter, aside from the first thing listed?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Haraise on October 14, 2009, 02:12:53 PM: Anyone know the part number for the M shifter?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: bmwman91 on November 25, 2009, 12:25:27 PM: I just ordered the kit from BMA yesterday. I didn't specify which shifter, so it came with the default Z3 1.9L one. I mostly want to get rid of the slop in the 20 year old shifter that is in there now, and a little shortening doesn't hurt. Has anyone taken a picture of the 318iS lever next to the others?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Sharky on November 27, 2009, 09:54:02 AM: On my e36, almost 15min! that is 5mm longer then scratched the shaft!
Sorry, my inglish is gogle translater:D

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1281/dsc01499ad.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/dsc01499ad.jpg/)
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: bmwman91 on December 21, 2009, 01:53:40 PM: I got my kit installed in about 30 minutes. This was very straightforward.

Initially, I didn't like it since it was super notchy & required a lot more force to engage. However, the car feels so much more lively now...the shifter provides a bit more feedback, and overall instills confidence in the mechanical condition of the car lol.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: carlos318is on December 21, 2009, 02:46:20 PM: Just ordered my 2.5 Z4 today so that should be here in a few days cant wait :D
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: 92BMW318is on December 23, 2009, 06:47:17 PM: i have a short shifter in my car, it and i qoute " does not feel like my hand is full of wet spaghetti"
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: carlos318is on December 24, 2009, 01:34:39 AM: Well my shifter is here just no time to fit it now:mad:
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: carlos318is on December 25, 2009, 03:43:07 AM: Took delivery yesterday of this little baby :D

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/bimmerowner/CIMG2389.jpg)

When I fit it I will get pics up of the 2 side by side
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: TooTall90 on March 31, 2010, 09:38:30 PM: ancient bump.

just wondering is it required to remove the driveshaft to install the SSK, or is it only needed when you are replacing all of the bushings?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: dude8383 on April 02, 2010, 04:57:59 PM: Quote from: TooTall90;90304
ancient bump.

just wondering is it required to remove the driveshaft to install the SSK, or is it only needed when you are replacing all of the bushings?

Nah, you should be able to replace everything without having to drop the driveshaft. It will be a little tight but its do-able.
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: B318M42W on May 23, 2010, 05:29:28 PM: Never mind, found what i was looking for:D
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Roman on May 24, 2010, 02:09:45 PM: Z3 3.0 shifter installed in 1990 318is E30
(http://www.imagehost.ru/data/8249/medium/DSC000482.JPG)

1 gear
(http://www.imagehost.ru/data/8249/medium/1gear.JPG)

2 gear
(http://www.imagehost.ru/data/8249/medium/2gear.JPG)

5 gear
(http://www.imagehost.ru/data/8249/medium/5gear.JPG)

rear gear
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Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: PumpItUp on May 24, 2010, 06:05:37 PM: thanks very much for the pictures. i was wondering about how far forward 1st/3rd/5th gear would move (I feared having to reach too far) but I see since the shaft is bent it doesn't affect those gears. Still, I like how the stock 2nd gear feels almost at the drivers waist, and it always makes me wish I had a dogleg gearbox like the MB 190 I drove. That's why contrary to most owners I don't want short shifter. Its not a Porsche after all with the tractor style stick visible down to the ground. The throw isn't that long at all and in my opinion by shortening the shifts you're just throwing out one of the enjoyable aspects of driving.

Could anyone with experience tell me what parts you should replace to give an old e30 the [almost] brand new notchy feel, rather than the 200,000miles sloppy feel. Theres a lot of very small parts down there, above the transmission, which play the biggest role? And can a transmission get so worn that it becomes impossible to retain a new feel? I've never touched a new (out of car) transmission, only really old rusty ones which feel really dodgy with that small amount of leverage...
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: Roman on June 18, 2010, 12:26:49 AM: On my previous E30 i change all bushings. Gear changes got better, but IMHO SSK is better.

My father has MB E220 W124 with M/T. And after my shifter it is too long )

P.S.
Porsche Boxster S 1gen has long shifter ) but changing of gears is more precise than stock E30.

PPS
Sorry for terrible English :(
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: dude8383 on June 18, 2010, 09:39:09 AM: Quote from: PumpItUp;92869

Could anyone with experience tell me what parts you should replace to give an old e30 the [almost] brand new notchy feel, rather than the 200,000miles sloppy feel. Theres a lot of very small parts down there, above the transmission, which play the biggest role? And can a transmission get so worn that it becomes impossible to retain a new feel? I've never touched a new (out of car) transmission, only really old rusty ones which feel really dodgy with that small amount of leverage...

-Pick up a brand new shift lever
-purchase the UUC double shear selector rod http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/dssr/#pricing - search around for the right p/n its somewhere here or on R3V 100%
-25117503525
-http://www.akgmotorsport.com/catalog/catalog.php?category=e30%20Shifters - Shifter Housing Bushing Set - Delrin

That should give you great shifter feel ;)
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: TooTall90 on September 14, 2010, 12:15:57 AM: looking good up there Roman.

im thinking about going with the 3.0 ssk as well, i heard some one mention that there is no bending required when installing the 3.0 shifter into a e30 m42. can some one confirm this?
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: dude8383 on September 14, 2010, 11:28:46 PM: Going to be posting up my X5 3.0 shifter soon with a comparo between my Z3 1.9.

This is a taller lever that should still provide the nice short throws that the Z3 1.9 but with added comfort. It will also improve the overall feel when driving the car at the track...shorter distance between your hand and shifter :)
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: dude8383 on September 18, 2010, 05:39:16 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5dkuxQLr8

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Thought some of you might want to see this. I just installed it and I'm in love.

It's perfect, its a tad shorter than the Z3 1.9 Lever but not even close to being as knotchy as the Z4 levers are. Its a good 1" - 1.5" taller than the Z3 lever. I also have the UUC double shear rod installed so everything is nicely weighted now. Also, I had to shave down the area where the lever slides into the uuc rod because it was slightly wider than the Z3, you should be able to see it in the pics above.

It'll be a hoot on the track!
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: e30Andym42 on January 17, 2011, 01:10:50 PM: When I was preparing to do this, I had a hard time deciding which shift arm to get. I could only find a video of dude8383's x5 shift lever and a z3 1.9 shift lever. I wondered what the z4 3.0 shift lever was like, as it is the shortest of the short. Well I got the z4 3.0 shift lever so it's time to answer that question for those that want to know:

Here's a crappy pic of the difference:
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Before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf8QHIAT0R4

After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVvOZ4cEs1M
Title: DIY Short shifter (P/N's, prices, step by step)
Post by: lbreevesii on February 21, 2011, 10:54:10 AM: Just a few thoughts on my shifter refresh.

It has been mentioned that you really don't need all of the parts listed. Here is my personal short list of what you do need/want:

shifter of your choice
1x 25111220707 $13.73 BEARING, SHIFTING ARM
1x 25111469397 $7.60 each BEARING, SHIFT LEVER
2x 25111220379 $0.70 CIRCLIP ZNS3- updated design, much better than stock
1x 25111434194 $0.50 WASHER, PLASTIC - this is actually the foam insert for the rod joint
4x 25111220439- yellow shim washer

You really shouldn't need to buy the rod joint, which has jumped in price to upwards of 30 bucks. If you do feel the need, buy the MTM one as well as the foam insert listed above. it costs <20 bucks. If you buy anything for this area, buy the foam insert. If you are careful you should not need the retaining bush for the rod joints pin(pn 25111203682 ).

Just my .02 to save you a few bucks and get the most out of it.