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DISCUSSION => Engine + Driveline => Topic started by: ///m42 sport on November 10, 2008, 10:07:32 PM

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: ///m42 sport on November 10, 2008, 10:07:32 PM

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2452/d7443tr2.jpg)

Hey anyone have info on this engine?  Never knew Hartge developed the m42

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: ///m42 sport on November 10, 2008, 11:03:16 PM

oops, just saw the other thread.

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: strad on November 11, 2008, 12:08:11 AM

That is a beautiful thing.

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: marko on November 11, 2008, 09:54:50 AM

this guy has an M44...

http://www.vitessetuning.com/images/project/page1.htm

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: cecotto on November 12, 2008, 09:19:43 AM

I've just scanned this for you.

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: marko on November 13, 2008, 07:29:05 AM

Hartge is probably a lot of money...

if you want a 2.1L - just call metric mechanic & purchase their internals from their M42 Rally motor.

Title: MM 2.1 Rally guts
Post by: roundel318 on November 13, 2008, 09:04:40 AM

I don't think the MM kids sell ALL of the components (at least pistons they state in FAQ's) seperate, although they do seem to sell a variety of components.

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: marko on November 13, 2008, 10:12:31 AM

they'll sell you anything you want & they'll help you figure out what exactly you need in order to achieve what you want...

I currently have a runing tab with them for my ongoing project - & so far I got the FI piston / rod kit (10:1 compression with 2.0L) + M44 Rally cylinder head + 258 degree intake cam + single timing chain conversion + 360 degree main bearing oiling system.

they'll do custom set ups as well, so much so, that they'll actually design a set up from scratch for you according to which parameters you are looking for... I.E. desired dispalcement, compression, cam & crank combos.

they even have euro diesel M47 cranks.

off course, unless you'll have them build you a complete motor (9K) - you may have to find a shop to open up the cyl walls for (all) metric oversized pistons.

call them & ask for teddy.... Metric FTW! :)

good luck.

Quote from: roundel318;60601

I don't think the MM kids sell ALL of the components (at least pistons they state in FAQ's) seperate, although they do seem to sell a variety of components.

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: Hodge on November 13, 2008, 10:48:52 AM

MM is awsome, can't go wrong with them!

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: roundel318 on November 13, 2008, 11:20:07 AM

Thats awesome!
I have been in correspondence with Teddy regarding engines, I was just reading the FAQ on the site :P
I am rebuilding my 91 318i and have plans for a 3 plate LSD and a Rally 2100, sounds like your engine project will produce some fun times :)
Cheers!

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: marko on November 13, 2008, 12:23:41 PM

yeah... LOL it should be fun when its all finished up.

I told teddy I dont generally go past 5500 without cringing! :) he freaked &  was like 'dude, when you assemble the motor with our parts, PLEASE make sure you rev that f-er to 7800!'

now, if thats not confidence in your parts, then I dont know what is... :D

Quote from: roundel318;60625

Thats awesome!
I have been in correspondence with Teddy regarding engines, I was just reading the FAQ on the site :P
I am rebuilding my 91 318i and have plans for a 3 plate LSD and a Rally 2100, sounds like your engine project will produce some fun times :)
Cheers!

Title: hartge 2.1?
Post by: marko on November 13, 2008, 12:24:12 PM

+1

Quote from: Hodge;60615

MM is awsome, can't go wrong with them!