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DISCUSSION => Suspension => Topic started by: achtungE30 on May 25, 2006, 08:09:55 AM

Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on May 25, 2006, 08:09:55 AM: Anyone else out there waiting on their IE stg 3s?? Whats the latest word?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: JDNo.5 on May 25, 2006, 09:39:35 AM: Been waiting on my set for over 2 months now... DAM IT EIBACH :mad: !!! Make the springs already!!!
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: thumper3ld on May 25, 2006, 09:56:22 AM: Quote from: achtungE30
Anyone else out there waiting on their IE stg 3s?? Whats the latest word?

Frank meet Jonas,

Quote from: JDNo.5
Been waiting on my set for over 2 months now... DAM IT EIBACH :mad: !!! Make the springs already!!!

Jonas, meet Frank.

Just in case you two dont know who each other are.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on May 25, 2006, 01:32:30 PM: lol, Hi Jonas
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: JDNo.5 on May 25, 2006, 04:00:46 PM: What's going on man? I'm about to give up and settle for some Eibach Sportlines and rock those until the IE3's come in. Let me call them up now and see when the new back order date is.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Wizard on May 25, 2006, 06:06:34 PM: From what I was told just last week, Eibach keeps telling IE it will be a couple of weeks...Problem is, Eibach has been telling this to IE for months....Not sure if I would my breath to long....
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on May 27, 2006, 08:56:50 AM: I cant find the sportline on eibach's website for our application? Where did you see it?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: romkasponka on May 27, 2006, 12:17:02 PM: why dont you want to try H-R race springs?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: thumper3ld on May 27, 2006, 12:24:36 PM: Quote from: romkasponka
why dont you want to try H-R race springs?

More expensive and also on back order.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: M42boy on May 27, 2006, 09:20:41 PM: Why do you say Eibachs? I believe the IE Stage III *IS* an H&R Race spring. Or, is made by H&R for IE.

H&R has terrible inventory management, and from what I've gathered from a lot of thier vendors, they really don't care. At least about the American market. I waited months for the H&R coil-over kit, but gave up on waiting and just got the Vogtland kit with Konis. Much cheaper too! :D
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: thumper3ld on May 28, 2006, 10:37:21 AM: Quote from: M42boy
Why do you say Eibachs? I believe the IE Stage III *IS* an H&R Race spring. Or, is made by H&R for IE.

H&R has terrible inventory management, and from what I've gathered from a lot of thier vendors, they really don't care. At least about the American market. I waited months for the H&R coil-over kit, but gave up on waiting and just got the Vogtland kit with Konis. Much cheaper too! :D

IE Stage III is made by eibach. But both are on rediculous backorder.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: JDNo.5 on May 30, 2006, 12:19:06 PM: Quote from: achtungE30
I cant find the sportline on eibach's website for our application? Where did you see it?

I’ve seen the Sportlines on a few sites, but there seemed to be a discrepancy about what chassis it would fit. For example the site would say it’s for a 1991 318is, but the chassis would be listed as an e36, some sites would even just list it as an e30/e36 option. Anyway I called up a few performance shops around my way and they confirmed that there was a Sportline kit for the 1991 318is, but these guys didn’t know the difference between an e30 and an e36 (Dam muscle car shops…). So I figured I’d call the source and find out what’s the real deal. I knew it was bad news for us e30 318is owners when the first words out of the reps mouth was “oh yeah, it looks like we’re going to have to upgrade our catalog”, LOL. So without going into any useless details, “there is no Sportline kit for the e30 1991 318is” and just in case you were wondering like me… “The e36 springs will not fit, there is a difference with the rear springs” or at least that’s what the rep said.

On a similar note, I also called H&R and I spoke to a really nice lady who told me flat out that “there are currently no race springs for a 1991 318is and we have never made a race spring for that car.” Oh well, like I said she was a nice lady who was just punching in numbers on a computer.

Ahhh the wait continues, IE3’s baby!!! Number ###, on the IE3 wait list, LOL…
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Wizard on May 30, 2006, 02:56:05 PM: Technically she is correct.....There is no listing for a 318is race spring....Next time tell her it is for a 1988-1991 M3 (part # 50404-88) Most M3 suspension parts will fit the 318is
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: 1991318is on May 31, 2006, 12:16:31 AM: Quote from: M42boy
Why do you say Eibachs? I believe the IE Stage III *IS* an H&R Race spring. Or, is made by H&R for IE.

Didn't see anyone covering it, but yeah, sorry if anyone did but the IE's are made by Eibach but are same setup w/ weights and all as the H&R race springs but are not the same.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 03, 2006, 04:57:35 PM: Anyone hear anything?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on June 03, 2006, 08:44:27 PM: BMA gave me an ETA of two weeks :). So I'll be giving them a call in two weeks. Hopefully they have them by then. Don't you all go bugging them now, I want a set!!
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on June 05, 2006, 12:05:15 PM: so when ordering you say its an e30 M3 part? i would have assumed you would just order the 325is part? the IE stg. 3's came quick when we ordered some for my bro last year..
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 06, 2006, 08:53:15 AM: IE says 1-1.5 weeks so ha! :) but my order was placed on 4/30 FTL
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: M42boy on June 06, 2006, 11:21:20 AM: I gotta say good things about IE. When I called to get help with some parts I have, it was discovered that I had the wrong part. Essentially, Bimmerworld screwed up and sent me the wrong ones. I was supposed to get the Spec E30 camber plates, not the ones for coil-overs.

Even though I had ordered them through Bimmerworld and they were the ones that screwed up, Jeremy at IE took care of it and really helped me out! I have the proper camber plates on there way to me now... FINALLY!
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 12, 2006, 10:08:13 AM: Anyone hear anything yet? bump!!
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Wizard on June 12, 2006, 04:13:54 PM: I was told by IE that they should be in THIS WEEK......But haven't we heard that before? No blame on IE......Eibach just keeps lying about shipping dates...
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 16, 2006, 08:00:20 AM: well i went and e-mailed Jeff Ireland...he claims their being painted at Eibach...

...

Eibach says they're being painted. I expect a couple more days might do it.
Jeff Ireland

Frank Malgapo-IT wrote:

Hello,

I placed my order back in early May for a set of your Stage III springs for me 1991 318is E30. Has this ever came OFF of backorder? What is the ETA.

Your response is appreciated!!

Regards,

Frank
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: 2002maniac on June 18, 2006, 01:28:36 PM: I would not settle for eibach sport springs, they are way too soft imo. STG3 spring will be worth the wait.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: thumper3ld on June 18, 2006, 04:10:20 PM: Quote from: 2002maniac
I would not settle for eibach sport springs, they are way too soft imo. STG3 spring will be worth the wait.

IE Stage 3 springs are made by eibach.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: 2002maniac on June 18, 2006, 08:29:25 PM: Quote from: JDNo.5
What's going on man? I'm about to give up and settle for some Eibach Sportlines and rock those until the IE3's come in. Let me call them up now and see when the new back order date is.

Quote from: thumper3ld
IE Stage 3 springs are made by eibach.

Sportlines are not the same as Stg3's The sportlines are way too soft.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 18, 2006, 10:42:36 PM: got some more people from r3v that are waiting on the wings.... http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=69351

Honestly, all this waiting, got me thinking....why not just go H&R sports, have a more civilized ride, have the wifee still enjoy the 318 and call it a day... lol
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on June 19, 2006, 04:11:53 AM: Because you want the IE3s so much :). If you wanted the H&R sports in the first place you wouldn't be waiting as long.

The drop w/ the IE3s is nicer as well.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 19, 2006, 07:09:19 AM: Yup, thats what keeps me goin....
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 20, 2006, 11:40:19 AM: According to Jeff Ireland at IE

" As of last friday --- Eibach says we'll have them on thursday this week

Jeff"
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 22, 2006, 09:06:41 AM: Well here we are Thurs...anyone else want to call and get status besides me? ;)
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: thumper3ld on June 22, 2006, 09:29:46 AM: Quote from: achtungE30
Well here we are Thurs...anyone else want to call and get status besides me? ;)

Why, you've been doing such a great job so far. On a side note, if I was Jeff, I probably would've given you your money back. Your like a pitt bull on this guy. lol :D Anyway Jonas said he'll give them a call if you want.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 22, 2006, 10:30:41 AM: It pains me to not be driving my BMW since I when I do the spring/shock install, ill also be repairing my control arm bolt issue. So i kinda am putting alot into when those springs will show their beautifully powdercoated selves on my doorstep or my office (forgot which address I gave them).
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: JDNo.5 on June 22, 2006, 01:41:22 PM: Just spoke to someone at IE, probably Jeff, I'm not sure. Anyway here's the scoop... As of yet they have not received any shipment from Eibach. The person on the phone told me that they will be calling everyone on the waiting list as soon as they ship the springs, however this may take a few days because they are not sure when they will arrive. The guy said that if they don't contact me by Tuesday, that I should call back to get an updated status inquiry.

The wait continues...:mad:
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on June 22, 2006, 03:15:56 PM: Terrible...by the time they have them I won't want them anymore! Geez. (frustrated)
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Eurospec on June 22, 2006, 04:48:29 PM: Hang in there fellas, I did the same with the H&R's I ordered and the wait proved to be worthwhile.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on June 22, 2006, 06:18:37 PM: You install your H&Rs yet?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Eurospec on June 22, 2006, 07:29:53 PM: Quote from: mikesjo
You install your H&Rs yet?
Yep, what a difference :)
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 23, 2006, 10:52:49 AM: agh!!! dammit!!! :mad:

well theres a few things i can do while the car sits and sits and sits
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Wizard on June 23, 2006, 06:44:15 PM: Anyone get their call from IE today? Maybe they misplaced my number....lol
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on June 23, 2006, 08:53:51 PM: Quote from: Eurospec
Yep, what a difference :)

pics?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Eurospec on June 24, 2006, 12:28:55 AM: Quote from: mikesjo
pics?
Later this week. Had the chance to wash it today, so it's prepped for pics.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on June 25, 2006, 10:58:49 AM: so should i order these tommorrow or no? i think i'll call and talk with the guy, i dont want to be waiting months... when my brother ordered them last november they had no ordering issues.....they seem much more popular now.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 26, 2006, 11:07:19 AM: Let us all know what they tell you regarding an ETA!!!
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on June 26, 2006, 01:52:27 PM: today they are in! (supposedly). i just talked to the guy and orderd mine, said they had about 20 or so on backorder (you guys) and are expectin about 100 sets in today. So they ship tommorrow! (so they say). w00t!
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 26, 2006, 03:12:50 PM: MUST...CONTAIN....MYSELF!!!

I ended up calling them anyway, and they said Jeremy wasnt there, but the guy who answered did say the springs had not arrived yet. He also did say he was not sure since he isnt working with those orders. I sent an e-mail yesterday morning too but never got a reply, so they may be embarassed and won't answer me till I call again.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on June 27, 2006, 08:03:20 PM: well i was told they were arriving that day (yesterday, the 26th)....
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 28, 2006, 08:02:35 AM: I called yesterday the 27th and they still have not arrived. They are unsure when it will arrive as it was supposed to arrive the 26th.
They also mentioned that Eibach is not returning their calls. If this continues into next week, i will be cancelling my order...this is pretty ridiculous for a BMW tuner to not have control over its own inventory.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Interlocker on June 28, 2006, 08:17:32 AM: Quote from: achtungE30
I called yesterday the 27th and they still have not arrived. They are unsure when it will arrive as it was supposed to arrive the 26th.

I find this pretty annoying... :mad: and I don't even have any springs on order! You guys are a lot more patient than I would be. ;)
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on June 28, 2006, 12:16:21 PM: BALLS. i am calling them today and probably going to change my order to a set of H&Rs. i saved a lot by ordering my bilsteins on sale at bav auto so i dont mind the extra 50 bucks if i can get them somewhat on time.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on June 28, 2006, 12:23:27 PM: they arent in yet, they should be he said. he said he would prefer if i didnt call back to find out their status when i asked if i should....said he got liek 20 calls a day....

i know its not their fault but i would still like to know when to plan my install day or knwo if i shoudl change my order....
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on June 28, 2006, 03:19:20 PM: Are you thinking of H&R Race then?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 28, 2006, 03:45:24 PM: yes, the next step is $100 more and H&R Race
i've waited 2.5months for my suspension order to complete itself.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on June 28, 2006, 03:48:27 PM: Crap what shock mounts are you guys getting? IE is out of theirs and now I'm stuck...What about E36 shock mounts?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 28, 2006, 03:51:17 PM: Turner has some great heavy duty rubber reinforced ones going for i think $90, i will probably go OE rubber though.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Interlocker on June 28, 2006, 04:00:33 PM: Quote from: mikesjo
Crap what shock mounts are you guys getting? IE is out of theirs and now I'm stuck...What about E36 shock mounts?

Most of the aftermarket units that work on the E36 should work, so you've got Ground Control, JTD, Rogue Engineering and others. Turner (and DasAutoSport.com) have a JTD unit that's labeled as a heavy duty OE-like replacement which is only about $20-$30.

If you want to go with OE parts, I went with E46M3/convertible mounts on my car (HDs and stock springs).
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on June 30, 2006, 10:09:04 AM: Wow, thats cheaper than I thought?

Have you guys heard anything on the IE status?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on June 30, 2006, 05:36:38 PM: i went with some reinforced ones from BMP. NOt the high performance ones, but they are so easy to change i need to save money now.. any word on the springs? ill call again in a day or two...
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on July 04, 2006, 10:15:31 AM: happy 4th everyone. i want my springs to ship.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Interlocker on July 04, 2006, 10:56:34 AM: Quote from: ///Motorsport
happy 4th everyone. i want my springs to ship.

Happy 4th!!!

I feel bad for you guys waiting on these springs for so long. Doesn't anyone know of a place where everyone who's waiting could just put in a small group buy of the H&R Race springs and be done with the wait? What a PITA!
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on July 04, 2006, 01:41:55 PM: yeah i just didnt plan on the wait. if i find out they dont have them in yet, i dont mind paying the extra for the HR Races. Unless i hear of a backorder...
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on July 05, 2006, 03:32:22 AM: *taps fingers on table*

Waiting sucks....:(
I see they raised their prices to almost $300.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on July 05, 2006, 08:07:12 AM: I will gladly organize a group by for this if there is enough interest (that is H&R Race springs)

If someone can compile me a list of H&R vendors that stock the e30 specific parts for us, i'll be glad to make the call.

If I dont hear from them today, im cancelling the order tomorrow with IE.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on July 05, 2006, 03:10:14 PM: Why don't you call IE first to see what their status is on the springs. Would be sad if you cancelled and they were ready to ship.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: M42boy on July 05, 2006, 05:37:26 PM: I'm still waiting for Turner to call me back for a set of H&R coil overs. Turner has pissed me off royally so much I really have no interest in giving them my business again.

For rear shock mounts, there are a multitude of options. I guess E46 cabrio ones are the ones most people use now.

As for the front upper strut bearings... Just use the OE ones with 3/4 deg of camber built in. This is an OE part, and you can find it by looking on Bavarian Autosports web site.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on July 05, 2006, 06:17:12 PM: okay talked to a guy there today, same deal... shipment delayed a week. i guess our calling in is useless, he says we'll all be notified asap when they arrive.....within the next few years hopefully...

i want to cancel, but afraid other HR Races have backorders too..
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: M42boy on July 05, 2006, 10:44:12 PM: Quote from: mikesjo
Crap what shock mounts are you guys getting? IE is out of theirs and now I'm stuck...What about E36 shock mounts?

Okay, while I hate Bill Turner's evil empire, that is in fact where I got these, and they are quite nice. There's a "BMW shop fix" cheaper alternative as well that I'm guessing works just as well and is half the price, but these looked cooler. :cool:

(http://www.s-cars.org/postnuke/modules/gallery/albums/danh/IMG_4319.sized.jpg)

H&R has horrible inventory management. I don't think they get the whole supply/demand thing.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on July 07, 2006, 12:25:16 PM: you mean eibach? well i just ordered my H&R race springs fromt TMS.....said they were the last few or so left... cancelled my IE order...im assuming these springs are essentially identical?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on July 08, 2006, 01:47:48 PM: does turner have them in stock? which part # did you specify?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on July 08, 2006, 02:06:17 PM: i was told it was the last one by the first guy.... and i didnt havea p# i just asked for the Race Springs that fit the e30....he didnt have aproblem finding them..... 370 shipped..
Title: How long, how long....
Post by: D. Clay on July 08, 2006, 05:22:03 PM: Surrender the fantasy. Looks like IE stands for "imminently eternal"
Title: hrmmm
Post by: achtungE30 on July 08, 2006, 08:08:24 PM: looks like ill be calling turner on monday - gee its almost like IE is helping turner sell springs...lol
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on July 11, 2006, 01:30:18 PM: well i just placed my order with turner as well - IE's phoneline is busy lol
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on July 11, 2006, 08:59:53 PM: Pics of the car w/ h&r race?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: M42boy on July 12, 2006, 09:02:08 AM: I've seen some warnings about IE's rear camber correction kit (trailing arm cushing replacements) as well. I've heard there are some issues and goofy design. Anyone have these?

I have the KMAC ones. They aren't great but at least are poly and fit well.
Title: IE Camber kit.
Post by: D. Clay on July 12, 2006, 10:56:41 AM: It is a weld on part so you never know if it was installed correctly. A long time ago folks put spot welds on the washers after the car was aligned to keep the settings but I've heard this was corrected. The rear suspension crossmember is pretty light and is probably heat treated alloy.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on July 12, 2006, 06:34:57 PM: Quote from: mikesjo
Pics of the car w/ h&r race?

i post up a thread during and after the install...springs come within the week.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: mikesjo on July 13, 2006, 03:04:38 PM: Lots of pics please :). I need springs...
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on July 18, 2006, 02:37:10 PM: Any day now on the H&Rs...just called and cancelled my IE order...
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on July 18, 2006, 09:12:26 PM: im in the midst of my install, having trouble with the front ball joint removal, and i gashed my rear driveaxle boots, need to take axles off and replace them...
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on July 21, 2006, 08:04:09 AM: My H&Rs just arrived too...but I just ordered new CAs and bushings so it'll have to wait a lil longer.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: ///Motorsport on August 02, 2006, 12:30:45 AM: whats the word on IE? glad i cancelled..
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: nickmpower on August 02, 2006, 12:47:57 AM: Quote from: D. Clay
It is a weld on part so you never know if it was installed correctly. A long time ago folks put spot welds on the washers after the car was aligned to keep the settings but I've heard this was corrected. The rear suspension crossmember is pretty light and is probably heat treated alloy.

i hope ther arent problems with it, as i installed it, myself! maybe it shoulnt have been the first thing i welded?
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Eurospec on August 02, 2006, 02:32:51 AM: Quote from: achtungE30
My H&Rs just arrived too...but I just ordered new CAs and bushings so it'll have to wait a lil longer.
Where'd you get the front suspension components, if you don't mind me asking? I'm going to be in the market soon.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on August 19, 2006, 09:33:44 PM: Quote from: Eurospec
Where'd you get the front suspension components, if you don't mind me asking? I'm going to be in the market soon.

Ordered the H&R Race springs from turner....Bilsteins from Bavauto....ebay controls arms w/bushings.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: Eurospec on August 19, 2006, 11:00:04 PM: You might regret the ebay control arm purchase later on.
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: JDNo.5 on September 03, 2006, 02:09:11 AM: Quote from: achtungE30
Ordered the H&R Race springs from turner....Bilsteins from Bavauto....ebay controls arms w/bushings.

Yo man, how are those eBay control arms w/bushings, did you get a chance to test them out yet? BTW how many of you actually called up IE to cancel, I still have my order on file with them even though my H&R sports are sitting in my living room, LOL. ;)
Title: What's the deal with IE???
Post by: achtungE30 on September 04, 2006, 04:24:24 AM: ...And they still haven't come in yet!!! I believe myself and Motorsport called in sometime in June to cancel, ordered the Races and got them 7 bus days later. I haven't put my new CAs in yet for lack of time and bigger fish to fry with the hose replacements that I still haven't finished yet...