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Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: bmw327 on July 03, 2008, 08:01:44 PM
Hi Folks -

Just wanted to relay some fuel mileage data...

I've been driving my car as a daily commuter (mixed hwy / city) since the beginning of April and have been keeping records of fuel consumption since purchase.  I've filled the car 11 times since purchase and for the last tank (#10), I changed a few things to see  how they collectively might affect fuel mileage.

For all but the last tank of fuel, I drove as normal and I had an average fuel mileage of 25.3 with a standard deviation of 0.86 mpg (%RSD of 3.42%).  Total miles = 2601

For the last tank I've made the following changes and for the most part have maintained discipline:

1.  Raise tire pressures 4 psi all around to 36 psi.

2.  Use the AC only when absolutely necessary and turning the AC off when accelerating from a stop.

3.  Reducing hwy cruising speeds from 75-78 mph to 70-72 mph (indicated).

4.  Accelerating at wide open throttle as much as possible (except in first) but short shifting; max rpm ~4200. Apparently this is a pretty efficient way to do it from a few articles I've read.

5.  Raising cornering speeds when safe to do so - less braking going and faster cornering means less acceleration required on the way out.  I've gotten a few cloverleafs down to zero braking / zero shifting when traffic permits.

6. Drive one gear higher than I ordinarily would.

This has yielded 27.2 mpg, which is a 7.5% improvement over my average, better than 2 std deviations above the mean of the first 9 tanks, and 3.8% better than my previous best of 26.2 mpg.

Ok, I'm a geek.  I admit it.  Still, I thought you might be interested...
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: vonkamp on July 03, 2008, 08:25:40 PM
Good data. I think your highway driving must be knocking down your mileage a bit. Most of my daily driving is @ 45 to 55mph and I am getting 30 + mpg even with my ac on in this Florida heat. I also fixed all my vacuum leaks and that seemed to help as well...
Next up is tjts1 cold air intake conv., COP's, and Magnaflow muffler.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: bmwman91 on July 04, 2008, 12:15:01 AM
Slowing down 5mph on the highway makes a hell of a difference!  I try to keep it between 65 and 70mph, although sometimes I just go 80-85mph when driving longer distances on weekends lol.  Commuting generally gets me better mileage since I am moving slower.

On surface streets, strategize a little.  I coast a LOT between stop signs and lights.  Usually, I accelerate to 5 or 10 above the limit and coast to the nest stop.  Engine braking saves a little fuel as well.  At some of the longer lights in town, or ones where where is a long line of cars, I turn the motor off lol.  I always feel like a goober, but who gives a damn, really.

I get between 28 and 31mpg consistently.  I am excited about the next tank though.  I am hoping to beat 31mpg!
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: Alexx on July 04, 2008, 08:22:04 AM
My 1991 BMW 318is takes less than 10 liters to do 100 kilometers.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: batsbats on July 04, 2008, 10:07:01 AM
I used to WOT and short shift on my prelude.  I read it in C&D a long time ago.

I'm consistently getting 26-27mpg with 60hi/40city on my 318is
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: bmw327 on July 04, 2008, 10:34:22 AM
The car is in good tune with no vacuum leaks whatsoever. The mess under the intake was checked recently, two hoses were replaced, and it's dead smooth, though there are a few things potentially working against it.  

First, 10 miles of my 32 (one way) commute are on a 55 mph road with quite a few lights (12, I think) and a fair amount of traffic, meaning there is quite a bit of acceleration to ~60mph, sometimes more, then deceleration. Maintaining anything like a constant speed on that road is impossible and that will eat fuel.

Second, the car is wearing relatively wide tires for its size (205-55-15) possibly giving slightly greater rolling resistance and poorer aerodynamics.

Third, the car has a 93 octane chip which definitely produces more power than the stock unit.  I don't know if this has had any effect on fuel consumption but because it does change ignition and fuel mapping, I'd assume the potential is there.  Any data from Mark D on this?  

Old EPA ratings for the car were 19 / 25 mpg city / hwy, so I think ~27 mpg in mixed driving is pretty good.  

It beats the 19-20 mpg that my 535i was getting...but I miss the torque sometimes!
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: Alexx on July 04, 2008, 10:03:22 PM
Petrol crisis.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: tjts1 on July 04, 2008, 10:19:27 PM
Excellent data. Thanks for sharing it.
I think the EPA numbers are really unreliable for this car. My all time worst tank was 26mpg and I was flogging the car down highway 1 along the northern coast of California. Most tanks fall in between 29-31mpg. 90% of my driving is short city and highway trips of no more than 5-10 miles at a time. I tend to avoid rush hour and it usually takes me about 2-3 weeks to cover the 340-360 miles when my low fuel light comes on. My all time best was 35mpg on a highway only tank. I only buy 87 octane.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: bmwman91 on July 05, 2008, 12:55:34 PM
I just drove the 60 miles to my GF's place last night.  The mileage needle our cars have is the greatest thing ever lol.  During the drive, I kept it pegged at ~35mpg the entire time, save a couple surface streets and idiots on the highway merging at 40mph.  My speed was kept between 65 and 75mph.  For now, maximizing economy feels more like a game than anything...it actually kills time quite well to challenge myself to get the best mileage possible!
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: Sam Cogley on July 06, 2008, 12:58:37 PM
Quote from: tjts1;52622
Excellent data. Thanks for sharing it.
I think the EPA numbers are really unreliable for this car. My all time worst tank was 26mpg and I was flogging the car down highway 1 along the northern coast of California. Most tanks fall in between 29-31mpg. 90% of my driving is short city and highway trips of no more than 5-10 miles at a time. I tend to avoid rush hour and it usually takes me about 2-3 weeks to cover the 340-360 miles when my low fuel light comes on. My all time best was 35mpg on a highway only tank. I only buy 87 octane.


The EPA numbers are horribly unreliable for any manual transmission vehicle.  Either whoever is doing the testing has NO idea how to drive a stick, or someone there is being paid off by the automatic transmission manufacturers.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: gearheadE30 on July 06, 2008, 08:45:00 PM
Lol, it is kinda fun on the highway. I have found that toyota landcruisers offer the longest drafting range behind the vehicle out of all mass-produced SUV's, but it is more efficient to drive behind a new tahoe or suburban, because they have a smoother draft ;). ~30 ft behind a semi yeilds the same gains as ~15 ft behind a landcruiser. With drafting, I can average 45 mpg on the highway, and that is at reletively safe distances with no cruise, 93 octane chip, and a 4.10 diff.

City, I get consistently 26 mpg. Round trip from Fishers to Terre Haute (about 4 hours) got me an average of 40.13 mpg. I need to get a life :)
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: tjts1 on July 06, 2008, 09:12:54 PM
You must have nerves of steel. I tried drafting behind a semi once in our volvo wagon. It was amusing seeing the instant MPG display show mid to high 40s but my god i was bored. I had to cruise at 120mph for the next 15 minutes just to clear my head of the mind numbing experience.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: AcSchnitzer318is on July 07, 2008, 12:01:08 AM
City... between 24-27mpg.  Highway 28-33mpg.  I just recently changed to the 19# mustang injectors so we'll see if that netted or cost me any mileage.  Oh running 93 octane chip and delta regrind cams.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: EN318isPDX on July 07, 2008, 10:49:26 AM
I get 31mpg consistently since i replaced my fuel injectors, fuel pump and fuel filter. Before that i was lucky to get around 15-25 mpg with all the vacuum leaks and lack of correct fuel pressure. Also consider what type of fuel you run. I know in my 1977 280z if i run regular i get about 4 less MPG than if i 92 octane.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: Bunta on July 07, 2008, 05:14:40 PM
Ive been getting 27mpg lately.  Thats mostly back roads and a bit of highway driving. Not getting on it too much.  
Its fun trying to get the best mileage possible.  Ive managed 34mpg before, lots of coasting an 2k rpm shifts.  





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Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: Cobra Jet on July 07, 2008, 05:41:48 PM
I drive my 318ic daily as well, 110-114 miles per day actually.  Most of my driving is highway speed, with little traffic and only some traffic lights.  I drive @ 60-65mph for 90% of the drive (posted limit is 55mph).

No mods have been done to my engine, everything is stock as it came from the factory (oops - with the only exception being that all of the under-intake hose stuff is removed).

At each fill up, I reset my trip odometer and make note of my total miles driven.  Now, each time I have re-filled, my total driven miles based on the TO is 389 miles.  Each re-fill has been 12.6 gallons of fuel.  Based on my facts, I've been netting 31.12 mpg, which to me is good for a 17yr old vehicle.  My total miles driven and re-fuels are identical every single time, only because my route to & from is the same on a daily & weekly basis.

Now, when I do go for the re-fuel, my gas gauge needle is just about on the first white line @ the "R".  I've read that once the gas gauge light comes on warning of a nearly empty tank, there are at least 12 miles to go before the tank becomes really "empty".  If I'm getting 31 mpg, I'm sure I could possibly stretch out my remaining fuel so that I would get about 395-400 out of a single tank of fuel, but that is risky, so I will never attempt to do that... LOL.

It seems most 91/92 318's get anywhere from 25mpg-32mpg based on online forum responses.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: bmwman91 on July 07, 2008, 08:45:52 PM
I think that the gas light indicates 1.4 gallons of gas remaining.  One should have a number of miles left when the light comes on (goodness knows I tested that in college).
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: tjts1 on July 07, 2008, 09:42:07 PM
Quote from: bmwman91;52878
I think that the gas light indicates 1.4 gallons of gas remaining.  One should have a number of miles left when the light comes on (goodness knows I tested that in college).
I think you're on to something. You can go at least another 30-40 miles once the light is on but you're gambling with the fuel pump.
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: xwill112x on July 07, 2008, 09:48:24 PM
i get about 25ish mpg when i shift at 3000.

but when i shift at 2000 and avoid speeding (yes its hard) and coast tons i squezed 36 mpg..yes 36.
i'd somtimes even cut the car off going down hills etc.
i just try n remember the m42 has the dual t-body and i try to keep the bigass one closed as most as possible :]

but after i fill up, the local school parking lot gets resurfaced wit ha frsh layer of rubber. cant drive like a granny ALL THE TIME
Title: Fuel mileage
Post by: ///m42 sport on August 05, 2008, 08:07:24 PM
I just know I can have alot more fun in my 318is compared to my 325i cab and use less fuel.  

I did get 32.8 mpg on my 325i cab on a 600 mile road trip recently.  Cruise at 60-65.  4.10 diff.  Rev at 2.5k.  Synthetic motor/diff/tranny fluid.

I bet the 318is could have done better.  I was just looking at bp eastclear's 318is site.  He claims 47mpg at 65mph!  Those hybrids can go fuck themselves.