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Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: ClodKing on June 02, 2008, 05:50:19 PM
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This shows two different types of lock cylinders. One type is central locking style, and the other is a standard lock cylinder.

What would stop me from ripping the central lock system out of my car??

Can I just buy the non-central lock cylinder, and hook it up to the linkages to get a more reliable locking system??
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: vatos_p on June 03, 2008, 02:24:37 AM
central locking ( with the instalation of an allarm ) is the greatest thing ever...you can lock your car from a distance , or you can unlock your car while running to get into it through rain , so you do not sit on rain trying to unlock your car and getting all wet...( if you know what i mean )
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: swiss318is on June 03, 2008, 02:37:57 AM
Quote from: vatos_p;50519
...or you can unlock your car while running to get into it through rain , so you do not sit on rain trying to unlock your car and getting all wet...( if you know what i mean )


...does it rain where you are living!? :D
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: swiss318is on June 03, 2008, 02:45:32 AM
...the central locking makes you life easier!thats all.. with ripping it out you can save a couple of gramms, the acceleration will be better.. :D
its not really necessary..
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: vatos_p on June 03, 2008, 02:55:49 AM
i do not think that 150 - 400 grams will make your car better... But if you go for the ultimate car , then yes you should probably rip it off , also rip off the carpet ( it is 20 kg ) , you may rip off the internal panel of the doors also ( 500 grams ) , and the rear seats , the sunroof ( if you have any ) , buy your self a carbon hood , fenders , and generaly carbon parts...this could make your car better...
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: swiss318is on June 03, 2008, 04:17:54 AM
...that was a joke my friend!!
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: vatos_p on June 03, 2008, 04:39:48 AM
i was justs saying............. ( i have seen people do these stupid things - rip off very light stuff with the exuse to save weight thats why i said what i said...people are capable of anything........anyway... )
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: swiss318is on June 03, 2008, 06:17:23 AM
right now ,and at least for the next year, i am building the ultimate car for the street... with nothing unnecessery in it! goal are 900kg.. :D there i am removing everything..!!:D
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: vatos_p on June 03, 2008, 06:33:57 AM
building the ultimate car , will need you to remove everything... and much more...
changing the front and the back hood , the fenders and everything possible with carbon makes it even lighter...
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: hoevesruperd on June 03, 2008, 12:18:56 PM
i agree with my friend marcos here. its with grams that you save kg. and ligther is more fun. i see the difference between carrying my toolbox vs an empty trunk so yeah lightweight is fun and although if removing unnecessary components seems useless. it totals up to an overall better car. depends what you're after.
i too, will go through a lightweight process of removing everything thats not usefull. i already started with a/c powersteering and trunk carpets.. and i will remove the interior stained carpets and insulation, and lighten the wiring harness. (there are so many useless sensors like brake pad wear!!? and such)

i guess its about purity as well. a lightweight car is not only appealing in terms of performance but in terms of integrity. i spent a few days looking at E30 M3 race cars at my bmw specialist who's also a racer. everything is made to be simple and easy access and light. it was pleasing just looking at how the car was built.

so, to answer the question. if you're going to change your locking mechanism might as well go for the simpler and lighter and best engineered system.
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: ClodKing on June 05, 2008, 04:40:44 PM
I uh... man... this went the totally wrong way... hahaha.

I wanted to know if they were a direct swap out. My locks are starting to go, and I don't feel like spending 500+ dollars to get my central locking stuff working again.

I geuss it would save weight, but that's not my reason for the switch. I want dependability, reliability, and dependability, hahaha.

But really, I went from owning a simplistic truck, to a complicated car, and I want dependability, and simplicity back again. Most likely not totally back, but still...


Oh, and the carpet is coming out, and Rhino Liner is going in... eventaully.
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: vonkamp on June 05, 2008, 05:04:04 PM
LOL, lock cylinders to carbon fiber body parts...

But seriously, I was having lock cyl problems too and I did zoso's $25 ($35 now) remote install and now it's all good. :D
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: ClodKing on June 06, 2008, 03:21:28 PM
well last night it took me about 5 minutes (no joke) to get my key out of the cylinder after locking the car up...

I'm wondering how many times I have till my key is sticking out of the door, and all the doors are locked... What then?? break a window?

I could go to lexan windows after that, but I don't want to do that yet, hahaha.

So are they interchangable??
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: hoevesruperd on June 07, 2008, 10:17:17 PM
breaking-in e30s is really easy because of the shape of the interior lock buttons. dont break a window. just hide a clothe hanger somewhere accessible. i.e. behind fog lights.
 

hahaha i'm the king at not answering the right questions!! lol
well... bump, someone else might know!
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: ClodKing on June 08, 2008, 12:33:57 PM
Well thanks anyways man!:D
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: Zilla on June 09, 2008, 04:15:44 PM
yea def, i read zoso's 25$ mod for the keyless entry, and my locks work like a charm, don't even have to worry bout getting my key stuck, you can easily find lock replacements on ebay and the for sale part of forums for dirt cheap.  Good luck
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: ClodKing on June 09, 2008, 04:20:07 PM
But are the parts interchangable??

If I remove the loncking solenoids, and the central locking cylinder, and replace with manuals, will I run into troubles?

Has anyone ever cracked one of these doors open before? I sure somebody has...

How were the locks setup?
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: Cobra Jet on June 10, 2008, 08:57:58 AM
Why not just lock (or unlock) the car from the trunk lid?  If the door locks are giving you grief as far as inserting the key and being able to lock or unlock, just use the trunk lid key cylinder to lock or unlock the car...  Of course if your trunk lock is not working, then you're SOL.
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: 1991318is on June 10, 2008, 09:51:07 PM
If those are that bad, I would check into getting autoloc door setup. If I remember their like 200 with all the mechanisms. Otherwise I bet you could pull the mechanisms out of the door if your replacing them with the regular ones. Only issue I see is that your going to have a different key because the locks are different.

Edit: Looks like autoloc doesn't have the mechanisms, only the actuators and such. So if you had the manual locks you could switch em, but I don't think theres any way around getting new door locks to keep being able to use your door locks and not go to trunk
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: ClodKing on June 14, 2008, 12:26:23 PM
well looks like I'll just start replacing locks as I can....

But I'll do the keyless entry mod first.

I just really like manual door locks. And If I could, I'd go to manual windows aswell....

It's just less things to fail.
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: 1991318is on June 14, 2008, 02:15:23 PM
Quote from: ClodKing;51285
well looks like I'll just start replacing locks as I can....

But I'll do the keyless entry mod first.

I just really like manual door locks. And If I could, I'd go to manual windows aswell....

It's just less things to fail.

Manual windows rule. I love my truck cuz its got those, so much more fun...
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: ClodKing on June 15, 2008, 04:18:11 PM
Yeah I also miss the smoking windows...

Or atleast that's what I call 'em.
Title: Central locking, is it needed?
Post by: BMWManiac on July 09, 2008, 08:25:04 PM
I just bought the REC-43T and I have a couple questions...

I know that the 4 wire plug connects to the wires in the trunk as per the directions on zoso's site.  Run the red wire directly to the battery with a 1A fuse...got it.  But what does the two wire plug go to?